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Old 10-31-2006, 03:20 PM
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EFF stack = 200

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $8</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($33, 4 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $17</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $558.25</font>,
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: I raise therefor I am

You really suck at stack sizes.
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:24 PM
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isn't this the ol, oesfd-push? if he folds we're happy, if he calls we're less happy but most likely 50/50?
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:25 PM
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Standard imo.
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: I raise therefor I am

if i have any piece of that board, im calling, i dont care what the stacks are
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: I raise therefor I am

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You really suck at stack sizes.

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sorry... EFF stack is 200 $

Hope that didn't confuse ya Mike [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

oh and btw :

True wins pot ($1000.50) with Three of a kind, Twos, Queen high
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: I raise therefor I am

I hate these because I very very very very much doubt you ever do this with an Ace, 99 or 88.

If I had KK I would call your push here.
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:28 PM
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if i have any piece of that board, im calling, i dont care what the stacks are

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i hope so, enjoy losing money...

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my real question is : Is this better than waiting to hit? MY only real query is that AA will call and I will lose money when it does, but be able to stack it when I can.

I guess the EV of this play is like +40 dollars, so it's probably better than just calling.

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Old 10-31-2006, 03:29 PM
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I hate these because I very very very very much doubt you ever do this with an Ace, 99 or 88.

If I had KK I would call your push here.

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You lose money by calling I think. When you start calling with KK, I start doing this with a set.

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Old 10-31-2006, 03:30 PM
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I hate these because I very very very very much doubt you ever do this with an Ace, 99 or 88.

If I had KK I would call your push here.

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every time I push in this situation I think this (wow, the only hand i ever push here is a oesfd) ... n then every time I decide to make a standard raise (not push) I end up whiffing &amp; getting faced with a crappy decision.
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