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Old 10-25-2006, 01:04 AM
Pokey Pokey is offline
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Default Bluff attempt -- good or bad?

I've been gradually trying to increase the frequency with which I abuse weak-tight players. Today I had a particularly severe example, and I wanted to know if this looks reasonable or not.

<font color="blue">Villain is 38/16/1.7 over 1300+ hands. I haven't really gotten out of line in this session. I've been playing about a 29/18 game, but the only time I went all-in this session I had KK. (three-bet big preflop and called by 64s, all-in on a flop of 764 -- bastard. Opponent was not this hand's villain.)</font>

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Stack sizes:
Pokey: $101.10
CO: $100
Button: $199.80
SB: $194.95
BB: $133.50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Pokey is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Pokey raises to $4</font>, CO calls, 3 folds.

<font color="blue">Good for a call, good for a raise.</font>

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Pokey bets $6</font>, CO calls.

<font color="blue">Bottom pair, but TOP KICKER! Meh, call it a c-bet.</font>

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($21.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Pokey bets $15</font>, CO calls.

<font color="blue">I feel that I'm only winning this one with relentless aggression, since my hand strength is pretty cruddy.</font>

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($51.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Pokey bets $75 (putting villain all-in)</font>....

<font color="blue">All the draws missed, and even a T has to be afraid of a big river bet when that K falls. Unless villain has a hand better than a pair of kings, I'd say he's likely to fold. That's going to happen more than 40% of the time here, right?

Right??</font>
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Old 10-25-2006, 01:09 AM
Claunchy Claunchy is offline
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Default Re: Bluff attempt -- good or bad?

I don't have a problem with it in a vacuum, but bear in mind that when you run laggier than normal, you can expect to get called down light sometimes, even if you have actually had good cards.
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Old 10-25-2006, 01:09 AM
tubasteve tubasteve is offline
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Default Re: Bluff attempt -- good or bad?

Bet more on the flop. I'd give up on the turn. Why do you say he is weak tight?
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Old 10-25-2006, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: Bluff attempt -- good or bad?

this board is somewhat connected. give up turn.
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Old 10-25-2006, 01:19 AM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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I would bet about $8 on the flop, and check behind on the turn.
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Old 10-25-2006, 01:44 AM
mikechops mikechops is offline
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Default Re: Bluff attempt -- good or bad?

I like to have an idea of what hand I'm representing. On this flop with either AT or JJ+, I'd bet more than 6.

I can see you getting looked up on the river. If I'm a villain with say AT, I'd be wondering why so much? If you had a monster, wouldn't you want to get paid?

Also, you need him to fold better hands 60% of the time. I'd just check and hope he had either a flush or straight draw.
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Old 10-25-2006, 01:51 AM
thedustbustr thedustbustr is offline
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Default Re: Bluff attempt -- good or bad?

pokey - on a board this wet, as you pointed out, a draw makes up a large part of his hand range. you beat a draw.

i dont hate the turn bet, but i would probably ch turn and ch river if he is a nit. the pot will find its way into your stack more than you expect.
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Old 10-25-2006, 01:55 AM
gimmetheloot gimmetheloot is offline
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I really hate this.
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Old 10-25-2006, 02:00 AM
ColdSteel ColdSteel is offline
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You hate the hand or what DB said?
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Old 10-25-2006, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: Bluff attempt -- good or bad?

I don't really like the turn bet much. I would probably check turn.
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