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Old 07-01-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Bet Size Question after Slowplaying KK

2/5 Live. 10 handed. $480 effective. My image is non-existant. Just recently sat and haven't really played a pot yet. Villain is aggro young guy. He just 4-bet shoved AKs for a buy-in and lost ~500 to KK a few hands ago.

Hero is btn w/ KK. Straddled for $10 preflop. Folded to villain in CO who makes it $30, I call, rest fold.

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Villain bets $40, Hero raises to $140 as he gives a speech about having the best hand.

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Villain checks, Hero has ~$320 left...
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Bet Size Question after Slowplaying KK

push
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Bet Size Question after Slowplaying KK

shove i guess.

this is a MUST raise preflop.
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Bet Size Question after Slowplaying KK

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this is a MUST raise preflop.

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why?
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Bet Size Question after Slowplaying KK

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this is a MUST raise preflop.

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why?

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the guy is clearly agro preflop, not many people get it in preflop live with AK for 100bbs, let him put a move on you, or think you are pushing him around. You dont flatcall this in an online game, why do it live?
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:07 PM
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this is a MUST raise preflop.

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why?

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the guy is clearly agro preflop, not many people get it in preflop live with AK for 100bbs, let him put a move on you, or think you are pushing him around. You dont flatcall this in an online game, why do it live?

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dont forget its also a straddled and raise pot, so there is a decent amount of money in there for the taking --- dragging the pot now is fine. in addition, you have position -- play big pots in position. you have kk and an aggro player that could potentially put you on a steal (i realize you have no image) could do something stupid and that stupidity will be magnified in a larger pot.
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:08 PM
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Default Re: Bet Size Question after Slowplaying KK

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this is a MUST raise preflop.

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why?

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the guy is clearly agro preflop, not many people get it in preflop live with AK for 100bbs, let him put a move on you, or think you are pushing him around. You dont flatcall this in an online game, why do it live?

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The first time you reraise, you tend to get a ton of respect. His range is enormous here and I feel like I will maximize against his range by disguising my hand. To be real honest, I'm not interested in discussing preflop.
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:09 PM
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i think the only time i would flat call here is if people are constantly straddling and defending their straddles (this doesnt sound like the case). if you have reason to believe the straddle/BB will attempt a squeeze play cold calling is sexy.

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Old 07-01-2007, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Bet Size Question after Slowplaying KK

why would you do anything besides push?
were you thinking about making a donkish bet like 140 again to induce a push over the top?

also i think PF is fine. if the blinds are paying attention to this guy at all youre giving them a great oppurtunity to sueeze with any 2, and then you can push.
anyway playing HU in position in a raised isnt such a bad thing
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: Bet Size Question after Slowplaying KK

he called your raise. jam it. thread over.
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