5/10 vs kmoney, explain something to me

[jfish]

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this looks bad to me, rly bad

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usually i dont put too much stock in your posts [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img], but christophers said the same thing so i will see if anybody else feels this way.

[jfish]

obviously not dismissing every other post.

[luegofuego]

really dislike it.

[jfish]

gotta give a better explanation than that fatty.

[stigmata]

i don't like it either, along the lines of BigJim's thinking. Another little thing is that if we play it slower, occasionally we will overtake him from behind.

[jfish]

what about the times an A/Q/J/9 falls and i lose value from hands that i beat? i mean i can comfortably b/c lots of turns if i raise flop and he just calls.

[jfish]

and given that he really doesnt get out of line unless you seriously push him (my read at least), i dont think he is 3betting in position too often here.

but it is 4 handed and i had c/red him 2 times before on this table or so.

[jfish]

it would be cool if anybody who played ftp 5/10 and knew both of our images could comment on what you think the best flop line is here.

[stigmata]

not sure you get value from these hands with the flop check raise.... e.g. anything that can withstand your check-raise is either ahead of you or has reasonable equity on the flop. He has position, and if he calls the flop, when the turn comes we are in a pretty crappy spot oop, but he is going to be playing reasonably correctly. If the money then goes in the turn, again we are likely in deep doo doo.

[jfish]

ok that makes sense to me.

what do you think the best line is here? c/c lead? b/c?