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Old 10-20-2007, 04:45 PM
KLJ KLJ is offline
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imo raising so little that were not committed is suspicious as hell.
[x] call and shove a lot postflop.

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i 4bet very small quite often, it fits fine w/ my gameplan i think.

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but doing it in this situation really feels like you're folding to a push, because your hand is already perceived as weak. so he might be pushing a wider range if he's competent and you might be making a mistake by folding AT
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:47 PM
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imo raising so little that were not committed is suspicious as hell.
[x] call and shove a lot postflop.

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i 4bet very small quite often, it fits fine w/ my gameplan i think.

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but doing it in this situation really feels like pocket aces

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Old 10-20-2007, 04:49 PM
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I read well I would flat call here then
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:50 PM
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imo raising so little that were not committed is suspicious as hell.
[x] call and shove a lot postflop.

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i 4bet very small quite often, it fits fine w/ my gameplan i think.

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but doing it in this situation really feels like pocket aces

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i strongly disagree, KLJ is right.

Villain doesnt care if wed do this with aces.
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..

id rather have like kq tho to flat call. idk its close between calling and 4betting small here with at
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:52 PM
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imo raising so little that were not committed is suspicious as hell.
[x] call and shove a lot postflop.

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i 4bet very small quite often, it fits fine w/ my gameplan i think.

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but doing it in this situation really feels like pocket aces

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ya like lol, what else am i supposed to say than this? a small 4bet by me here should include AQ+/TT+ with at least some frequency. its definitely a pretty suspect line though.
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:53 PM
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tozzy, KLJ,

would you 5bet with atc if i 4bet to $300 here? i definitely felt like there were people who would take my tiny 4bet as weakness, which is why i listed the option of calling a shove.
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:54 PM
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def not any two, but my range would be MUCH wider.
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:55 PM
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imo raising so little that were not committed is suspicious as hell.
[x] call and shove a lot postflop.

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i 4bet very small quite often, it fits fine w/ my gameplan i think.

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but doing it in this situation really feels like pocket aces

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i strongly disagree, KLJ is right.

Villain doesnt care if wed do this with aces.

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no one five bets with atc, you guys are retarded. once we resqueeze the back raise our hand looks like a monster or air, people will obviously shove TT+ AK, rarely AQ, and fold their air squeezes

seriously a moron if you thin kthis isn't getting respect. i get no respect in general and this backraise gets sick respect from even me.
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Old 10-20-2007, 04:57 PM
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ya i mean i agree with ae and i think discussing how weak my small 4bet looks is somewhat tangential.
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