I've been playing 2+2 poker and I end up getting bluffed all the time.

[costanza_g]

bet more than the minimum on flop#1, bet more than 1/2 pot on turn #1. raise 2.5x-3x w/AQ, you dont really rep anything with the turn raise, but i guess it could be worse.


Edit: hand #3 is actually a pretty tough decision on the turn. And good lord i cant believe you folded a set in hand #4. Its pretty unlikely either of them flopped a straight, but even if they did you have 10 outs.

[crystalallen]

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The title of this thread should be changed. OP is definitely not "playing 2+2 poker".

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I agree. These examples are NOT 2+2 poker. Those would be the ones where I get bluffed out.

[_Towelie_]

Hand 1: why did you donk the flop? You're giving villain 6.5:1 to hit whatever he wants. Just make a standard cbet (~350) and hope he shoves over it.

Hand 2: For the love of God why are you minraising? Make it ~t300 PF. If you have a read on villain than your line on the turn is ok except for the fact that you raised way too much. You can get villain to fold here for a lot less of your stack.

[crystalallen]

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you dont really rep anything with the turn raise, but i guess it could be worse.

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AK?


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And good lord i cant believe you folded a set in hand #4. Its pretty unlikely either of them flopped a straight, but even if they did you have 10 outs.

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Bet, raise, re-raise all-in on the first hand.

[_Towelie_]

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Bet, raise, re-raise all-in on the first hand.

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Regardless, it's still a fistpump instacall for the reasons stated above.

[costanza_g]

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And good lord i cant believe you folded a set in hand #4. Its pretty unlikely either of them flopped a straight, but even if they did you have 10 outs.

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Bet, raise, re-raise all-in on the first hand.

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Board: 8c 6s 5s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.567% 40.18% 00.39% 1914236 18452.00 { 6d6h }
Hand 1: 29.717% 23.79% 05.93% 1133441 282329.00 { 88-77, 55, 97s, 98s, 87s, 75s-74s, 43s, 97o, 98o, 87o, 75o-74o }
Hand 2: 29.717% 23.79% 05.93% 1133441 282329.00 { 88-77, 55, 97s, 98s, 87s, 75s-74s, 43s, 97o, 98o, 87o, 75o-74o }


Neither of these ranges include Ax flush draws. Or any flushdraws for that matter.

[crystalallen]

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Hand 2: For the love of God why are you minraising? Make it ~t300 PF.

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I can't find it - but I read a heads up article and it said to double the blind on the button because of position and bet 3x in the BB.

Sometimes I think people here forget what it was like to be learning. I've been playing poker with money for 2 months. Before that I played free poker (mostly in a bar league) for awhile and it might have warped my thinking about how to play the real game.
When I first started, I actually thought this was easier because people would actually fold.

[AMT]

crystalallen,

It looks to me as though it is not as much you simply getting bluffed more, its that you haven't yet thoroughly taken in "2+2 poker" (for lack of a better term), and therefore arent able to identify your own leaks or the ease of calling in a lot of spots where people seem to be making a move on you.

Trust me, its a lot of fun when you finally develop the understanding for that stuff, because then you don't just catch bluffs, you snap them off and beat him into the pot [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I recommend continuing to study and post and plug leaks and work on hand reading skills. I have a feeling you'll be catching more bluffs soon. Best of luck.

[Rusty Nails]

All I'll add is that I've found that the weaker the player the more likely he/she suspects a bluff. Don't worry about it too much and move on to the next hand.

[crystalallen]

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where people seem to be making a move on you.

...Best of luck.

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Thank you. I don't what's worse, when they show, or when I have the feeling it happened and I sit there brooding about it.