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Old 10-27-2007, 05:42 PM
gregorio gregorio is offline
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I feel like I am getting run over OOP. 3 hands vs different villain in about 20 minutes. Am I playing these wrong. Can I call any of these? Am I just getting run over?

<font color="blue">Hand 1</font>: Villain 41/10/1.1 (50 hands) WSD 31%; W$SD40%

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game
eff stacks $53

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($5.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($13.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $9</font>, UTG calls.
c/f turn better here with no draws?

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($31.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $18</font>, Hero ?


<font color="blue">Hand 2</font>: Villain 41/10/1.1 (50 hands)

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
eff stacks $50

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) 5 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $4
(not sure why I c-bet so small)

Turn: ($18.75) T (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4

River: ($26.75) 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $19.50</font>, Hero ?



<font color="blue">Hand 3:</font> no reads on villain, only about 20 hands

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Eff stacks: $55.80

Pre-Flop: K K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP folds, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.25) J 8 Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($20.25) 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10

River: ($40.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $40</font>, Hero ? <font color="blue"> </font>
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Old 10-28-2007, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: getting run over OOP

Hand 1 sucks, I'd probably check the turn and maybe call a bet maybe fold.

Hand 2 your cbet is too small I think but it looks like you already know this, I really think the hand plays out differently if you bet more though. As played I'd probably donk the turn and see if he still wants to raise.

Hand 3 I think you played way too weakly. Your hand is massively under repped, a raise &amp; cbet means very little. Since you had no reads I'd probably 3 bet the flop, if I had a read that villian would fire again on the turn then I like a CR here.
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Old 10-28-2007, 09:55 PM
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Hand 1 sucks, I'd probably check the turn and maybe call a bet maybe fold.

Hand 2 your cbet is too small I think but it looks like you already know this, I really think the hand plays out differently if you bet more though. As played I'd probably donk the turn and see if he still wants to raise.

Hand 3 I think you played way too weakly. Your hand is massively under repped, a raise &amp; cbet means very little. Since you had no reads I'd probably 3 bet the flop, if I had a read that villian would fire again on the turn then I like a CR here.

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i dont mind most of these, hand 1 is a tough spot for any opponent, he is going to showdown light but idk if folding is great either

hand 3 is a tough board, why do we think he bet so much on a blank river?
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Old 10-29-2007, 04:15 AM
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Default Re: getting run over OOP

I think he's probably got Hero pegged as weak tight and is looking for a fold. Hero played this a lot like whiffed AK.
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Old 10-29-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: getting run over OOP

In hand 3 I was afraid of JJ and QQ with the cold call of the 3bet, but I called anyway and he had JQ.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:17 PM
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In hand 3 I was afraid of JJ and QQ with the cold call of the 3bet, but I called anyway and he had JQ.

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What 3 bet? I guess the one inside my head. Anyway, the cold call in position is a range that I would think tends towards SCs and med. PPs, so flop hits a lot of villain's range. I was pretty sure I was beat when I called, but having already folded so much, I tilt/called.
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Old 10-29-2007, 02:37 PM
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hand 1 I check the turn and see what he does. I prolly call a bet(depending on player and bet size) and then c/f river (Dunno if thats right tho)

hand 2 I fold the river. I Would have folded the turn to a decent sized bet on this board, but I the limit player in me cant ever fold to a small bet.

hand 3, this hand really is a tough spot. The flop hits a lot of hands. QJ T9, 88, hands he might bluff with like JT QTs. I honestly still havent figured out how to play these spots. More often than not I just end up going broke with an everpair here so im starting to think being aggresive isnt the right play. I fold the river here tho. Id also be very wary of fish who make a couple small bets and then bet big on river, it always seems to be a good hand in my experience. Its like they are afraid there hand isnt good, or you will fold or something, and once youve called a couple times they realize youll prolly call again so they bet big (same as hand 2).
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