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Old 08-27-2007, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: standard NL line for TPTK

If one gets only one more value bet in (as one bet or a combination of two bets on the turn and the river), then there's generally no point of giving any free cards on the turn. If one gets more in, then one bets the turn of course.

There's some more reason to bet the turn when it's a lower flop than when it's a higher flop as the opponent is not as likely thinking you have a hand when you are betting the turn when it's a low flop, and then one might bet the river too (that makes more money than checking the turn and then representing a bluff at the river - that one might then do in the high flop case too where the opponent might have folded on the turn, or if he is the first to act, he might bluff the river). Out of position it can be nice to check the turn (like when the flop is low, though the possibility of him having a two pair or better has increased but one pair or less may be more likely), depending of what one figures the opponent has called you with and what he figures to do on the flop, turn and/or river.

Against a calling station one could bet half the pot or more (whatever he calls) on the turn and 1/3 of the pot or more at the river, for the best profits. I am not scared of getting raised or check-raised on the river until the opponent or/and the board type says so. I think the solid players check somewhat too much at the river, though I don't mean one should bet and get no value.

If the turn is a scare card and there's a good chance the opponent may bluff the river if one checks the turn, and if one may suck-out with the river card, one should consider a check on the turn. But usually it's just best to bet the turn when one has the position (the reasons are clear from limit holdem), but even when not on the position, it can get too hard to check and call vs. some players. One can control the size of the bet on the turn.

It's as complex as at limit holdem plus an added significance as the bets are bigger. Overall, one is acting according of what one thinks the situation is like, it being dependent of that, what one should be doing. There just being factors one can talk about of what one should be thinking about.
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