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Old 09-15-2007, 01:22 AM
bellytimber bellytimber is offline
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Default 50NL I take aggressive line oop, I have no plan

No reads, I sat down a few minutes ago and this is my first action.


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $21.70
Hero (BB): $49.25
UTG: $38.65
MP: $61.95
CO: $43.20
BTN: $35.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $2.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $5.00

Turn: ($16.25) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $11.00</font>, MP calls $11.00

River: ($38.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero?

should I have even been in this spot?
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Old 09-15-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: 50NL I take aggressive line oop, I have no plan

bet flop
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: 50NL I take aggressive line oop, I have no plan

raise pf
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: 50NL I take aggressive line oop, I have no plan

as played shove river
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:36 AM
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Default Re: 50NL I take aggressive line oop, I have no plan

The way you played I would bet $11 as a value bet.

But I would probably raise depending on the players who limped pf. But I would def bet, raise flop, possibly shoving someone shows aggressiveness.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:40 AM
bellytimber bellytimber is offline
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Default Re: 50NL I take aggressive line oop, I have no plan

guys thanks for the replies. Here are the two main problems I'm having:

1. What does my hand look like to villain? I never played the hand like I was drawing. My flop c/r makes it look like I flopped something made and that I'm scared of draws. If he thinks my range consists largely of hands that are scared of draws, then when the draw actually hits on the river should I a) let him bluff river so he can rep flush? or b) should I shove and possibly get called by 87 or 56 or something because he thinks I'm FOS?

2. more importantly, wtf are we putting villain on? What hands limp pf and then play the other streets this way? And if I'm in a wa/wb situation, is it wise to bet river and/or turn?
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: 50NL I take aggressive line oop, I have no plan

I agree that your hand looks made, some pair or 2pr or pair+draw something. Hard to rep overpair because you didn't raise.

2) Hard to put villain on a boat. Do you think he made a weak raise and just called a 3bet on the flop with 2pr or a set on a super wet board? I think Villain has pairs, trips &amp; draws way more often than a boat here.


Shoving is bad here b/c you're less likely to get called by hands you beat. If you want get value out of trips/straights/flushes, weak lead the river. A hand so weak he just calls would have folded to a push, a semi intelligent player bluffs away his stack, and if he boated up then you got screwed, pound the table and curse
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:52 PM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: 50NL I take aggressive line oop, I have no plan

A small river bet is sexy for the reasons danimal said. Raise pf and lead the flop
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: 50NL I take aggressive line oop, I have no plan

raise pf
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:59 PM
bellytimber bellytimber is offline
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Default Re: 50NL I take aggressive line oop, I have no plan

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raise pf

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many of you suggested this. My thinking is basically: I have KQs in the BB, a decent hand that could become powerful with a good flop, but right now I am behind the range of the preflop raiser, and who knows what the first limper is going to do if I 3bet. If I 3bet pf I am now building a big pot OOP and unless I hit the flop hard I am going to be in a weird spot. Yeah I will usually raise this in position, and I will sometimes raise it OOP if the opponent is right, but my standard play here oop is to call and see a flop. Why do you guys think that is wrong? Genuinely interested.
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