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Old 11-22-2007, 09:23 AM
Gullanian Gullanian is offline
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Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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CO: $22.41
BTN: $22.71
Hero (SB): $29.45
BB: $18.47
UTG: $4.02

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.75</font>, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $3.27 and is All-In, CO calls $4.25, <font color="red">BTN raises to $22.71 and is All-In</font>, Hero folds, CO calls $17.41 and is All-In


I aven't done it much, but I'm doing it more frequently now. Is this fold good? stack sizes are awkward
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Old 11-22-2007, 09:28 AM
PatBateman PatBateman is offline
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Default Re: Folding QQ pf

Btn calls the raise, then pushes after your reraise. this doesn't make sense to me . without reads i call this.
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Old 11-22-2007, 09:43 AM
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Default Re: Folding QQ pf

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CO: $22.41
BTN: $22.71
Hero (SB): $29.45
BB: $18.47
UTG: $4.02

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.75</font>, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font> <font color="blue"> =&gt; you chose an excellent amout to raise here imo </font> , BB folds, UTG calls $3.27 and is All-In, <font color="blue"> =&gt; so far you achieved what you wanted </font> CO calls $4.25, <font color="blue"> =&gt;this might mean a very strong hand - a read would be very useful here. How aggressive has CO been preflop so far? Has he been calling big 3-bets light?</font> <font color="red">BTN raises to $22.71 and is All-In</font>, <font color="blue"> I almost certainly discount AA and KK here because villain just called with a UTG raise and a caller ahead of him, this isn`t the way most people play aces/kings. Although he will show up with them here from time to time, I think he is more likely to run a bluff or hold something like AK/AQ/JJ/TT</font> Hero folds, CO calls $17.41 and is All-In



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My decission depends on my reads on the CO. I`m not afraid of the BTN.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: Folding QQ pf

I'll ignore the short [censored] that'll prob win the main pot all 3 JJ/QQ KK with a3o [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

but as I understand it two semi 100bbs players call a PFR IP then get 3bet by Hero and CO calls the 3bet then BTn shoves and CO calls.

CO middle pair or slowplayed monster, BTN similar range but more weighted to AK from his play IMHO

Let's say TT+, AQ+ for both although I think this is a bad range but my first approximation gives us ~ 35% equity 3way so it would suggest a call but TBH with 2 stacks AI already I think a fold is fine - I would certainly do this @ NL50+ unless tilty. But I think at least 1 has AK+ (BTN) and you're flipping but with 3way pot you have the equity to make it EV.

But if this isdonktastic Thanksgiving holiday players prob call and embrace the variance [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:00 AM
danilaisback danilaisback is offline
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Default Re: Folding QQ pf

easy fold, i sould just raise to like 3.50/4 preflop-&gt; fold to a reraise
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:03 AM
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Not here omg.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:46 PM
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Btn calls the raise, then pushes after your reraise. this doesn't make sense to me . without reads i call this.

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This move is often someone with AA/KK trying to be sneaky, then realizing he's getting action anyway and going for it. Anyone who limp/reraises or cold-call/reraises is showing a ton of strength, and I give them credit for a big hand unless I see them do it with something else.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:52 PM
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easy fold, i sould just raise to like 3.50/4 preflop-&gt; fold to a reraise

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you can't be serious. why on earth would you fold to a RR when you open?
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: Folding QQ pf

yeah I'd probably call here. If you lose, this is a great spot to take notes.
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Old 11-22-2007, 02:28 PM
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easy fold, i could just raise to like 3.50/4 preflop-&gt; fold to a reraise


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this makes no sense
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