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Old 08-01-2007, 04:01 AM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
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Default two ugly deep spots against same fish

Villain is 51/3/1.5 over 400 hands. I stacked him earlier where I flopped a set in an unraised pot in position. He mincheckraised the turn when he turned top and bottom and called the shove for 100BBs more.


These are $600NL


Hand #1

Hero: $1560
Villain: $1650

3-handed

Button raises to $21, Hero calls in SB w/ 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Villain calls in BB.

Flop ($63) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

checks around

Turn ($63) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bets $54, Villain calls, Button folds

River ($171) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero bets $158, Villain shoves, ~$1330 to call



Hand #2

Hero: $4150
Villain :$1970

MP limps, CO raises to $33, Button folds, Hero reraises to $128 in SB w/ K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Villain calls, MP folds, CO calls

Flop ($390) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets $280, Villain minraises, Hero calls (??)

Turn ($1530) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero checks, Villain shoves, $1300 to call


This is not the first time he has cold-called my 4-bet like this. He did it a couple orbits ago but then he got disconnected on the flop, so I never got to see his hand.
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:03 AM
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Default Re: two ugly deep spots against same fish

2 I'm really happy about getting it in

1 ughhh
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:06 AM
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Default Re: two ugly deep spots against same fish

esp with his really high vpip and history of badly overvaluing hands via minraise you gotta be pretty happy to get it in in hand 2
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:07 AM
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Default Re: two ugly deep spots against same fish

u can prob fold hand one even though i hate it.. i feel the same way about hand 2 but i think im much more inclined to call the ai on hand 2.

hand 1 it seems like he has aa... maybe 88
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: two ugly deep spots against same fish

one bump
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: two ugly deep spots against same fish

Can't he be playing AK same way in 1? Or a lone 8?
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: two ugly deep spots against same fish

i don't think you are beating much in hand 1 besides a total bluff (unlikely) or maybe even a hand like 9-8 or something weird like that.

i don't really like hand 2 either, but wouldn't mind getting it in there. honestly, i think you are beat in both these hands.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: two ugly deep spots against same fish

1: I would just fold, the pot is so small compared to his shove, really gross.

2: seems like a really easy call, what stopped you from just shoving flop?
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: two ugly deep spots against same fish

posted hands are often beats, but looking at the hand away fromt he table hand 1 is probably a fold and 2 is a call, but in the heat of the moment id probably pay off hand 1 and call hand 2 over half the time.
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Old 08-01-2007, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: two ugly deep spots against same fish

1 - i would not fold. too much chance he's saying "ZOMG 3 8's!!!!" this is much closer than #2 though.

2 - snapcall and be happy. i think folding this would terrible.
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