(Party 200+15) Bubbling two in a row - Bad Play?!

[lorddoc]

After losing about 35 buyins yesterday at 20+2 in 6 hours (100 games, 4-14-8, worst bad beats of my life) I was a little on tilt and fired up two 200+15 SNGs. The play was surprisingly bad so that I found myself 4-handed with healty stacks. Unfortunetely I bubbled both. I'll post my complete hand historys of 4 handed play. Any comments or help what I might have done better is greatly appreciated.


TABLE 1

******* Hand 1 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t8460
Button: t2130
Hero: t4530
BB: t4880

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t400 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t200


******* Hand 2 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2130
Hero: t4330
SB: t5080
BB: t8460

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in t2130</font>, Hero folds, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: t1530 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: t1500


******* Hand 3 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t4330
Button: t4780
SB: t7860
BB: t3030

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in t4780</font>, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: t4180 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: t1500
<font color="#ffffff">Button shows Kc Kd </font>


******* Hand 4 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t5680
Button: t7560
SB: t2430
Hero: t4330

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t1200</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t600 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: t1200


******* Hand 5 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t7560
Button: t3030
Hero: t3730
BB: t5680

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in t7560</font>, Button folds, Hero folds, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: t6960 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: t1500


******* Hand 6 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3030
Hero: t3430
SB: t5080
BB: t8460

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t3430</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in t4780</font>.
Uncalled bets: t1650 returned to SB.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t4630, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t7460)


Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t4630, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t7460)


River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t4630, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t7460)


Results:
Final pot: t4630
<font color="#ffffff">SB shows As Jd </font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero shows Kd 3d </font>



TABLE 2

******* Hand 1 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t6040
Hero: t4940
SB: t3730
BB: t5290

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t400 returned to .

Results:
Final pot: t200


******* Hand 2 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t6040
Hero: t4940
SB: t3730
BB: t5290

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t975</font>, SB folds, BB calls t575 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1575)</font>.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t2150, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets t1200</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t1200 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t2150


******* Hand 3 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t3965
Button: t3530
SB: t6465
BB: t6040

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero folds, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: t400 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t200


******* Hand 4 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3530
Button: t6265
SB: t6240
Hero: t3965

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t1200</font>, 2 folds, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t800 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: t1000


******* Hand 5 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t6265
Button: t6040
Hero: t3565
BB: t4130

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t2400</font>, Button folds, Hero folds, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: t2000 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: t1000


******* Hand 6 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t6040
Hero: t3365
SB: t3730
BB: t6865

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero folds, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: t400 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t200


******* Hand 7 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t3365
Button: t3530
SB: t7065
BB: t6040

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero folds, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: t400 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t200


******* Hand 8 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3530
Button: t6865
SB: t6240
Hero: t3365

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in t6040</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t5840 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: t800


******* Hand 9 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t6865
Button: t6640
Hero: t2965
BB: t3530

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in t6640</font>, Hero folds, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: t6240 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: t1000


******* Hand 10 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t7240
Hero: t2765
SB: t3130
BB: t6865

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero folds, SB calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t600)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t800, 2 players)
SB checks, BB checks.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t800, 2 players)
SB checks, BB checks.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t800, 2 players)
SB checks, BB checks.

Results:
Final pot: t800
<font color="#ffffff">SB shows Td 7d </font>
<font color="#ffffff">BB shows 2d 8h </font>


******* Hand 11 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t2765
Button: t2730
SB: t7265
BB: t7240

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero folds, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t1200</font>, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: t800 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: t800


******* Hand 12 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2730
Button: t7665
SB: t6840
Hero: t2765

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in t6540</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t6240 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: t1200


******* Hand 13 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t7665
Button: t7440
Hero: t2165
BB: t2730

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises all-in t7440</font>, Hero folds, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: t6840 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: t1500


******* Hand 14 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t8340
Hero: t1865
SB: t2130
BB: t7665

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1865</font>, SB folds, BB calls t1265 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t2765)</font>.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t4030, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t4030)


Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t4030, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t4030)


River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t4030, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t4030)


Results:
Final pot: t4030
<font color="#ffffff">BB shows 5s 7c </font>
<font color="#ffffff">Hero shows 4h Ad </font>

[TwistedEcho]

1st sng

Hand 2 you can call with the 55 unless you have some read you aren't telling us about. His range for pushing here is going to be wide enough that we can call. Rest look standard

2nd sng

Don't like hand 2, seems like spew. Rest looks good

[ger664]

Bankroll Management.

[blowbubbles]

In hand 8 on table 2 i might consider a call. You cant afford to be much more shortstacked now, then your FE disappears and you will end up in a coinflippish situation like hand 14.

[TwistedEcho]

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In hand 8 on table 2 i might consider a call. You cant afford to be much more shortstacked now, then your FE disappears and you will end up in a coinflippish situation like hand 14.

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Thats a bad call even if he is pushing any2.

[lorddoc]

Ok, maybe I should have called with 55... but I don't like calling with small pairs and put me into coinflips. 77 or 88 and I'm in of course...
The 2-2.5 BB raise always works at 20+2... Maybe people understand pot odds and the higher level.

Bankroll Management: I still had $1000 left (on PartyPoker) after losing $700 at the 22s (and more on Neteller and Stars)... still not a good idea to play 3 215s and 3 55s though... that left me with $430. [censored] happens.

[djk123]

is shoving sng 1 hand 1 bad?

[TwistedEcho]

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is shoving sng 1 hand 1 bad?

[/ QUOTE ]

nope, that looks like a push. I wasn't too sure because im used to having antes, but even without this looks like an ATC push.

[lorddoc]

Pushing 11bb with 74o from the small blind when there is a short stack?! SNGPT says this is only barely corret if his calling range is extremly tight...
Maybe I could have raised to 3bb and folded to a reraise?!

[blowbubbles]

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3530
Button: t6865
SB: t6240
Hero: t3365

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with 5 A
2 folds, SB raises all-in t6040, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t5840 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: t800


[ QUOTE ]
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In hand 8 on table 2 i might consider a call. You cant afford to be much more shortstacked now, then your FE disappears and you will end up in a coinflippish situation like hand 14.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thats a bad call even if he is pushing any2.

[/ QUOTE ]

I follow your line at the tables, but it finds me too often short stacked and in lack of any FE. So I am thinking that my calling range might be too tight?