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Old 12-16-2006, 01:06 AM
Guruman Guruman is offline
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the mathematics of poker has my poker pants going all crazy and has me re-examining every part of my game. (miles would be proud [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] )

for the sake of discussion, please post the single most standard hand you can possibly think of for the following situation:

you raise from utg in a six-handed game and a known tag defends in the bb.

please provide the following
-your entire hand range
-bb's entire hand range

eventually (though not immediately) we'll need the following:
-a flop
-an action matrix for the flop and turn



thx!
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Old 12-16-2006, 04:09 PM
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please define TAG more clearly 22/13 27/18 ?
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Old 12-16-2006, 04:29 PM
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how about you? what's your bb defense range vs a tag utg raise?
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Old 12-16-2006, 04:34 PM
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how about you? what's your bb defense range vs a tag utg raise?

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For me in general:

22-77, AT+, KT+, QJ, JT.
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Old 12-16-2006, 06:06 PM
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My UTG raise range depends on table (I am 24/14ish).

If I'm playing 6-max at a tight table where UTG raise has a chance to steal blinds and people play weak/tight after flop, I'll raise 55+ and sometimes any pair, A5s+, A7o+, K7s+, K9o+, QT, JTs.

If I'm at OnGame 5-handed, UTG raises almost never steal, rarely buy the botton, usually wind up at least 3-way on flop, and c-bets have no fold equity, so I tighten up even though its a shorter table and maybe raise AT+, 88+, KJs+, KQo, QJs.

It also depends if anyone after me is capable of 3-betting.

Not much help with defence range. It is all over the place depending on my mood, what's going on at other tables I'm playing, how much I've been defending lately, whether the raiser has pissed me off recently and I'm willing to gamble an extra SB to take him on, etc.
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Old 12-16-2006, 06:15 PM
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My stats are running 27/18 over hundreds of thousands of hands. My default line for raising UTG is

77-AA, AK-A10, AKs -A9s KQ-K10 QJ-Q10, J10

If the table is full of rcoks who fold to any raise I will open this up a bit and raise A7+ K9+ any pair.

My UTG range is normally pretty tight as I prefer to open up more marginal hands in later positons

My standard default defending range against a Tag who opens UTG and I am the only one left in the pot is:

22-AA, Any 2 cards 10 and over suited or not. I will dump any A9-A2 suited or not.

Playing postflop OOP against a TAG's UTG raise really sucks.
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