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Old 11-14-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: Yuck.....Still Undecided

vr,

It was a survey linked in one of these threads to CNN or MSNBC or somewhere.

Maybe someone else remebers.
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:56 AM
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Who's the guy who's all green? All the white guys look alike.

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Ron Paul

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in before "ZOMG HE'S A DOCTOR DIDN'T YOU HEAR?"
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:44 AM
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Those are my personal assessments of agreement or disagreement with the given candidate's positions (or at least the position attributed to them on the survey) on the given issue. Bright green = strongly agree, bright red = strongly disagree, and black = indifferent.

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Thanks. From what I gather you like the guy that has absolutely no chance (unless the electorate is restricted to people who post on the Internet). [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

~ Rick
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:46 AM
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Thx for the rigged mainstream media poll update. This means Pauls' real numbers are probably around 15%.

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Since Paul has no hope, I suppose his supporters might as well keep on being delusional. At least it will give you a little joy.

The first poll showing Romney catching up in South Carolina have been matched by later polls.

Romney seems to be making progress into the upper teens in Florida. However, Giuliani's lead is still well into the double-digits there.

Romney's double-digit lead over Giuliani in New Hampshire and over Huckabee in Iowa seem to be holding.
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:54 AM
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Those are my personal assessments of agreement or disagreement with the given candidate's positions (or at least the position attributed to them on the survey) on the given issue. Bright green = strongly agree, bright red = strongly disagree, and black = indifferent.

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Thanks. From what I gather you like the guy that has absolutely no chance (unless the electorate is restricted to people who post on the Internet). [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Will you still believe he has no chance if he's the leading fundraiser in quarter four on the Republican side? He's certainly going to raise more than any Republican candidate did in quarter three.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:00 AM
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Those are my personal assessments of agreement or disagreement with the given candidate's positions (or at least the position attributed to them on the survey) on the given issue. Bright green = strongly agree, bright red = strongly disagree, and black = indifferent.

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Thanks. From what I gather you like the guy that has absolutely no chance (unless the electorate is restricted to people who post on the Internet). [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

~ Rick

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Will you still believe he has no chance if he's the leading fundraiser in quarter four on the Republican side? He's certainly going to raise more than any Republican candidate did in quarter three.

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Despite the rants on 2+2 the only way raising more money gives him a chance is if he raises about 10k per voter and buys the votes.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:07 AM
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Despite the rants on 2+2 the only way raising more money gives him a chance is if he raises about 10k per voter and buys the votes.

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Sorry Copernicus, turnout is what's gonna be RPs friend. Every single person who said they favor him is gonna vote for him and normal turnout in a primary is 5%-15%ish.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:32 AM
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Those are my personal assessments of agreement or disagreement with the given candidate's positions (or at least the position attributed to them on the survey) on the given issue. Bright green = strongly agree, bright red = strongly disagree, and black = indifferent.

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Thanks. From what I gather you like the guy that has absolutely no chance (unless the electorate is restricted to people who post on the Internet). [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

~ Rick

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Will you still believe he has no chance if he's the leading fundraiser in quarter four on the Republican side? He's certainly going to raise more than any Republican candidate did in quarter three.

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Despite the rants on 2+2 the only way raising more money gives him a chance is if he raises about 10k per voter and buys the votes.

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Copernicus,

The story is different now because the Internet solved a coordination problem amongst libertarians, who are different from other political constituencies in that are not easily segregated (and thus controlled) by geography. As a pragmatic Paul supporter, I think it's very unlikely he'll get the nomination. There are still far too many ordinary people support their pet political projects and aren't actually libertarians - I think it's laughable to suggest Paul will ever enjoy true popular support. Libertarianism in general isn't a stable evolutionary political strategy. But on the national stage Ron Paul's candidacy can give libertarianism the kind of political heft like that enjoyed by the Miami Cuban ex-patriates in Floridian politics, for example. The ardent supporters, kooks, tax-protestors, New Racialists, whatever, aren't going away because geographic gerrymandering isn't as effective in this digital age and there are big single issues each is interested in that requires the rolling back of government power.

My aim as a RP supporter is to destroy the modern Republican party in its current incarnation. I've offered my thoughts on realignment and alliance between the "technology" Democrats and the leaner Republican party who deals with immigrants and other new demographics. I think it's a step in the right direction.
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Old 11-14-2007, 02:44 AM
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Default Re: Romney Moving Ahead in South Carolina Too?

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Thx for the rigged mainstream media poll update. This means Pauls' real numbers are probably around 15%.

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Since Paul has no hope, I suppose his supporters might as well keep on being delusional. At least it will give you a little joy.

The first poll showing Romney catching up in South Carolina have been matched by later polls.

Romney seems to be making progress into the upper teens in Florida. However, Giuliani's lead is still well into the double-digits there.

Romney's double-digit lead over Giuliani in New Hampshire and over Huckabee in Iowa seem to be holding.

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Dude, read the questions of the polls. They're all surveys of "likely republican voters." RPs supporters are not likely republican voters. They're independents, libertarians, and people who've never voted before. These polls are designed to only survey the "base" of each major party.

The anti-Paul haters such as yourself are the only delusional ones.
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Old 11-14-2007, 03:00 AM
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Thx for the rigged mainstream media poll update. This means Pauls' real numbers are probably around 15%.

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Since Paul has no hope, I suppose his supporters might as well keep on being delusional. At least it will give you a little joy.

The first poll showing Romney catching up in South Carolina have been matched by later polls.

Romney seems to be making progress into the upper teens in Florida. However, Giuliani's lead is still well into the double-digits there.

Romney's double-digit lead over Giuliani in New Hampshire and over Huckabee in Iowa seem to be holding.

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Dude, read the questions of the polls. They're all surveys of "likely republican voters." RPs supporters are not likely republican voters. They're independents, libertarians, and people who've never voted before. These polls are designed to only survey the "base" of each major party.

The anti-Paul haters such as yourself are the only delusional ones.

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I don't think Paul's support is under measured by polling techniques. I do think his support is more likely to vote. Not in a Lew Rockwell, 5% will win everything kind of way, but if Giuliani is polling at 24% and Paul is polling at 16%, Paul is going to win pretty much every time.
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