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Old 06-15-2006, 10:03 PM
stevepa stevepa is offline
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Default WTF??? A stuper hand...

No reads, he's been here 1 hand. WTF does this??? If you'd call, what's the worst hand you're calling with? If you'd fold, what's the best hand you're folding? Oh, and who bets the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t2215)
BB (t1480)
UTG (t3370)
UTG+1 (t1830)
MP1 (t1160)
MP2 (t3315)
MP3 (t3870)
CO (t1890)
Hero (t2240)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls t100.

Flop: (t375) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, UTG calls t250.

Turn: (t875) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (t875) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t2970 (All-In)</font>, Hero???

Final Pot: t3845

edited to add I usually raise to 200 here pf, didn't see the limper...

Steve
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:06 PM
gobboboy gobboboy is offline
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Default Re: WTF??? A stuper hand...

Looks like a set to me (or the weirdest AA ever). Muck. I like your line.

I think AK is the best hand I fold here. I would call with KQ probably and any set.

Edit: Edited to ask if you have AIM? Pm me.
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:08 PM
NoahSD NoahSD is offline
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Default Re: WTF??? A stuper hand...

I bet the turn. What's a reasonable range to put UTG on preflop in the stuper?
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: WTF??? A stuper hand...

It's either a J10 or some other monster, or a busted flush draw. The fact that you checked the turn makes his bluff % higher on the river.

However, is it safe to assume that the average $162 player is smart enough to realize that a 700 chip bet here as a bluff accomplishes basically the same as a massive overbet? I'm really not sure.

If I were you, I'd really want to make a crying call here, but I think that folding is the better play.
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: WTF??? A stuper hand...

I'd call with KT+ here. And I would usually bet the turn, unless I knew villain would be very likely to bluff a missed spade draw on river. If he has 44 or a turned set, good for him, I'm going broke here.
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: WTF??? A stuper hand...

I think your line is good, looks like JT or a set maybe I dunno. I don't think it's a busted flush or some random bluff often enough to call, though I'm sure it is some decent % of the time.
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:35 PM
Colombo Colombo is offline
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Default Re: WTF??? A stuper hand...

Steve, I just noticed that you're playing foshio heads up this week. Are you now a pro for pokerstars (like raymer and moneymaker)?

gl in the HU.
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: WTF??? A stuper hand...

this is always JT. failed cr on turnn. fk it push on river.
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:43 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Steve, I just noticed that you're playing foshio heads up this week. Are you now a pro for pokerstars (like raymer and moneymaker)?

gl in the HU.

[/ QUOTE ]

he has been for a while
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: WTF??? A stuper hand...

AK is the worst hand i call w/, or maybe if i got here w/ KJs but i don't see that happening.
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