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Old 10-20-2007, 10:02 PM
ZJ123 ZJ123 is offline
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Default FT Hand against Apestyles (is this -$ev)

Notice Stacks
Villain is Apestyles. Veryyy Aggressive and very good.
He wanted me to point out that he was drinking and the only reason he was playing this tourney was too win and get PLB's b/c of a bet.
Payouts:
1.5670
2.3780
3.2250

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No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t2000/t4000
(Ante: t400)
3 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: t203844
SB: t379018
BB: t27638

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t12000</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t72000</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t203444</font>
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Old 10-20-2007, 10:07 PM
apestyles apestyles is offline
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Default Re: FT Hand against Apestyles (is this -$ev)

Notice the guy in 3rd has &lt; 6 BBs after the BB and is nitty as hell. Hasn't played a hand in 2-3 orbits. Basically, without ridiculous luck he is going out 3rd. Oh, and it should be known that I almost never fold getting 2.2:1 preflop.
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Old 10-20-2007, 10:12 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: FT Hand against Apestyles (is this -$ev)

looks like a clear fold to the 3-bet.
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Old 10-20-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: FT Hand against Apestyles (is this -$ev)

Not sure. Ape will dwefinitely 3-bet you pretty wide here you`re probably right about it being +cEV at least. I`m not an ICM but I suspect it`s still very -SEV though. Pretty straightforward to do the math and find out what equity you need against his range (I`m obv too lazy right now tho).
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: FT Hand against Apestyles (is this -$ev)

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Not sure. Ape will dwefinitely 3-bet you pretty wide here you`re probably right about it being +cEV at least. I`m not an ICM but I suspect it`s still very -SEV though. Pretty straightforward to do the math and find out what equity you need against his range (I`m obv too lazy right now tho).

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Old 10-21-2007, 12:18 AM
Todd Terry Todd Terry is offline
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Default Re: FT Hand against Apestyles (is this -$ev)

His 6x 3bet is so goofy you must have his range obliterated. Any $EV calculations would assume he's calling here, I don't think he is. It's a game of chicken, he repped that he was pot committed (although he wouldn't ever play a good hand this way), you repped that you didn't care that he was pot committed. I like the play.
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Old 10-21-2007, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: FT Hand against Apestyles (is this -$ev)

If he had shoved would you fold? Cause this is the exact same thing.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: FT Hand against Apestyles (is this -$ev)

I agree. My raise basically is saying my hand sucks but u cant call.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:35 AM
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Default Re: FT Hand against Apestyles (is this -$ev)

But if you think your opponent is hip to an inverse relationship of bet size and hand strength you can pull something like this with a big pair to elicit the allin ...
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: FT Hand against Apestyles (is this -$ev)

I haven't played sit-n-goes in awhile but given the situation my instincts are that this is terrible.

Whoops lol I said open shove but didnt see how deep you guys were. Still hate this play.
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