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Old 11-27-2007, 04:07 PM
oli1980 oli1980 is offline
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Default I am starting to valuebet thinner...

...and does my river call make mathematical sense? Villan is unknown.

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $23.70
CO: $32.50
BTN: $49.50
SB: $36.55
Hero (BB): $50.50
UTG: $18.95

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks

Flop: ($2) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, UTG calls $1.50, 2 folds

Turn: ($5) 5 (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.75</font>, UTG calls $3.75

River: ($12.50) 9 (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $13.20 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $5.20
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: I am starting to valuebet thinner...

*bumb*
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:40 PM
djj6835 djj6835 is offline
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Default Re: I am starting to valuebet thinner...

This isn't thin. Against his stack I'm sizing my bets to get it in by the river.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:43 PM
Dr_Doctr Dr_Doctr is offline
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Default Re: I am starting to valuebet thinner...

Any reads on UTG? This seems fine but c/c on the river wouldn't be too bad either as it's a limped pot and your hand is not exactly a monster. Also, hearts/diamonds missed. A shortstack limping UTG at NL50 could have anything really. I hate getting raised on the river here but you have to call obv. But some players will definitely call you will all kinds of junk that KJ beats.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:44 PM
gregorio gregorio is offline
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Default Re: I am starting to valuebet thinner...

wtf bumping after 25 min?
Call makes mathematical sense if you think you are good more than 1 in 6.5 times. Against 40BB stack, it is okay to get it all in with TP. I think if you are going to bet this river, shove it, since a shove is only a psb and puts villain allin. You can't fold after you've put in almost 3/4 of villain's stack.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:51 PM
Steamboy Steamboy is offline
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Default Re: I am starting to valuebet thinner...

I would check and give a flush-draw a chance to bluff. if you bet , you dont have to bet 75% of the pot all the time you, as played I would call the raise, he might be a donkey who thinks J10 is the best hand. He could have Jh10h
math ? you meen like 2+2
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