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Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
They are not on the list of 11 states.
http://www.gambling911.com/Utah-Onli...er-080707.html Utah Warns Online Poker Players The state of Utah has been sending out letters to online poker players warning they could be in violation of state laws. A grand jury in Salt Lake City, Utah, charged seven people and four companies with multiple felonies related to processing credit cards for gambling Web sites this spring. The defendants are accused of helping gambling sites process US $150 million in payments from U.S. bettors, according to the U.S. Department of Justice. Charged in the indictment are Baron Lombardo, 46; Richard Carson-Selman, 51; Henry G. Bankey, 49; Francisco Lombardo, 52; Count C. Lombardo, 43; and Kimberlie Lombardo, 43, all of Las Vegas, Nevada; and Tina I. Hill, 32, of Sandy, Utah, and Las Vegas. Companies facing charges are CurrenC Ltd., also known as CurrenC WorldWide Ltd., based in the British Virgin Islands; Gateway Technologies LLC, based in Draper, Utah; Hill Financial Services Inc., based in Draper, Utah, and Las Vegas. The state has since received customer names and addresses from these companies of those online poker players residing in Utah. In 2005, Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff and 28 other attorneys general wrote to U.S. Trade Representative Rob Portman calling for a greater states' voice in future trade talks following a ruling that favored the Caribbean nation of Antigua's policy on Internet gambling. "Antigua has no business trying to write Utah's gambling laws," Shurtleff said at the time. "The Trade Representative needs to know that we have too much at stake to remain silent." Antigua went to the WTO claiming the Americans were in violation of a trade agreement where the United States had in 1993 signed off on cross-border supply of gambling and betting services. And Utah's prohibition against gambling was a central part of Antigua's argument. The WTO found in favor of Antigua and called the US actions "protectionism" since a law passed late last year exempts horse betting. Utah, however, does not permit any forms of gambling or a state lottery. The state itself is likely in compliance with the WTO decision. |
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Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
The most pious state in the union. Next door to the most libertarian too which is super ironic.
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Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
If you are referring to Nevada as libertarian, the real irony is that Mormons basically run Nevada also, and, Harry Reid, the Senate Majority Leader (D-Nev), is a Mormon.
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If you are referring to Nevada as libertarian, the real irony is that Mormons basically run Nevada also, and, Harry Reid, the Senate Majority Leader (D-Nev), is a Mormon. [/ QUOTE ] Someone should do a PH.D. thesis paper on how exactly this occurred. |
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Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
This post will add nothing to this thread, but a good friend of mine used to work for DirecTV. He said that Utah had the highest per household orders of pay-per-view porn of any state. I always got a kick out of that considering how conservative Utah was supposed to be.
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This post will add nothing to this thread, but a good friend of mine used to work for DirecTV. He said that Utah had the highest per household orders of pay-per-view porn of any state. I always got a kick out of that considering how conservative Utah was supposed to be. [/ QUOTE ] its really really unlikely that this type of information would be collected and I also seriously doubt that it's true. my guess would be that porn ordering is pretty evenly disbursed amongst state lines. I spent some time searching the internet and didnt find anything at all |
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The most pious state in the union. Next door to the most libertarian too which is super ironic. [/ QUOTE ] Even more ironic when you consider Nevada passed a law against online gaming. |
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Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
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[ QUOTE ] The most pious state in the union. Next door to the most libertarian too which is super ironic. [/ QUOTE ] Even more ironic when you consider Nevada passed a law against online gaming. [/ QUOTE ] They passed a law against unregulated Internet gambling, but they do allow for instate licensed Internet gambling. They've not issued any licenses yet. If IGREA passes, Nevada will likely (I assume, or why else pass the licensing provision) license some Internet gaming sites to operate within its borders but allow access to any state that doesn't opt-out and to any nation without a ban. |
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"Antigua has no business trying to write Utah's gambling laws," Shurtleff said at the time. "The Trade Representative needs to know that we have too much at stake to remain silent." [/ QUOTE ] For those that don't know, Utah is a child of it's parent, the United States. Much like classes, Utah inherits properties (laws) from it's parent class. Alas, poor Utah, you have no choice in this matter. You, just like all the other states in the US, will be forced to follow federal law which Antigua is going to change with the help of the WTO (or is it the other way around?). Either way pouting or stomping ur feet isn't going to help. So sad. Oh so sad. |
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Re: Why Online poker get warns letter from the state Utah?
Also, no Court in Utah has ruled on whether a) Utah gambling laws apply to the internet and b) whether poker, being a game predominantly determined by skill, is "gambling" under Utah law.
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