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Old 11-15-2007, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: 200nl stars river bluff shove

im not so sure it is a bad idea. Think about if you had AA and were facing this action for someone relatively unknown to you. Wouldnt you fold to the river shove
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: 200nl stars river bluff shove

i agree we probably had the best hand. if we had 108 of hearts we are raising at some point as well as with a set and he should have no reason to think we'd be in there with 108 offsuit unless we are a huge donkey.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: 200nl stars river bluff shove

its a very ineffective bluff and everything that beats you will call
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: 200nl stars river bluff shove

meh while I might fold aces there, i think its a bad idea to give your opponent credit to be able to make such a play, unless you have a good idea that he is capable of folding aces there
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: 200nl stars river bluff shove

well... im very surprised to hear alot of these thoughts. I thought it would be very effective. Im very sure if it were used against me it would be effective, as I would fold AJ in his seat all day long
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: 200nl stars river bluff shove

sigh 2+2 depresses me
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: 200nl stars river bluff shove

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don't post results. I really don't like it because the flush draw missed and you are really only repping 3 combos of T8s.

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Why three? I only see T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] being special here (by calling the turn bet).

OP: Are you crazy in general at the tables or just sometimes? Because if I'd ever seen you do this I guess I won't fold QQ+ here.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: 200nl stars river bluff shove

yea im kind of crazy i guess.... i dont really have a fold button
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:16 PM
EasyAs1-2-3 EasyAs1-2-3 is offline
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Default Re: 200nl stars river bluff shove

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well... im very surprised to hear alot of these thoughts. I thought it would be very effective. Im very sure if it were used against me it would be effective, as I would fold AJ in his seat all day long

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Yeah AJ gets folded, but are most villains of this type leading on all 3 streets like this w/ TPTK? That and AJ makes up a small part of his range anyway as played.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: 200nl stars river bluff shove

basicallly i think almost his entire range is Aj-AA and bluffs. Since i think the top of this range (AA) folds to my action then i think this must be good
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