6max starting hands (good discussion of PF and post flop play)

[Mike Z]

I am Looking to get a general idea of what people open with if no one has raised at say 25NL with table of 30/10/2.0

Here is a chart I came up with.

[bozzer]

these ranges are tight but are mostly internally consistent and are a decent starting point for a novice player.

the big point that needs correcting is that your SB range is wider than your BTN range, that is definitely incorrect.

edit: insert standard caveats about postflop>preflop, hand selection being dynamic etc. this is still a helpful topic for beginning players to get some guidelines.

[ev_slave]

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these ranges are tight but are mostly internally consistent and are a decent starting point for a novice player.


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Internally consistent? I know the term but I don't know how it applies to this, or even poker outside of game theoretical models of poker. Any clarification?

[bozzer]

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these ranges are tight but are mostly internally consistent and are a decent starting point for a novice player.


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Internally consistent? I know the term but I don't know how it applies to this, or even poker outside of game theoretical models of poker. Any clarification?

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no genius point, i just mean that the whole set of ranges are tight, but make sense (apart from the sb thing) in terms of position and hand values. there aren't many points where he's dropped a hand from the range for no obvious reason.

i think OP should play AJs UTG if he is playing KQs UTG though, and also raise all PPs UTG.

[ev_slave]

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i think OP should play AJs UTG if he is playing KQs UTG though, and also raise all PPs UTG.

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I agree with this. Although AJ and AT is table dependent for me. They both get played back at by better hands and can be expensive, so I only do this when players are tight and I know that the RR means AQ+, 99+ and I don't end up folding to a worse hand too often.

[monkover]

utg/mp: any pp A10s+, AJ+, KQ, JQs+
co: same as utg, 56s+,78
btn: mostly atc depending on blinds and table conditions

[monkover]

the problem is though i have to add here that you can´t play after a starting hand range systems as you can in minibet... nl preflop decisions depend on a lot of factors!

[Unknown Soldier]

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the problem is though i have to add here that you can´t play after a starting hand range systems as you can in minibet... nl preflop decisions depend on a lot of factors!

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QFT

if you want to be a good player don't follow a hand chart!

[Gelford]

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... as you can in minibet.

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O RLY?

[corsakh]

I play atc from SB with one limper. Your UTG is too tight, you need to open up your game and raise good hands like JT more often. I also like limping big pairs from early position to confuse my opponents. I think you should also create a separate chart for minraise ranges as it is an important tool in our arsenal and requires some thought.