nl600 fr KK hand when to lay it down

F1shRapeMe · #1 08-16-2006, 12:25 AM

villain is a 20/13 over 115 hands. I am wondering if anyone would fold this preflop and if you dont. do you reraise preflop or call and see a flop. also do you call an open push from villain on the flop. curious as to peoples thoughts on this hand.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($347.62)
UTG+2 ($378.86)
MP1 ($308.39)
MP2 ($273.80)
MP3 ($805.69)
Hero ($686.30)
Button ($278)
sb ($647.85)
BB ($924.30)
villain($700.91)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls $6, 3 folds, MP2 calls $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $24, 2 folds, BB calls $18, UTG raises to $120, MP2 folds, Hero calls $96, BB folds.

Flop: ($273) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

FatalError · #2 08-16-2006, 12:26 AM

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villain is a 20/13 over 115 hands. I am wondering if anyone would fold this preflop and if you dont. do you reraise preflop or call and see a flop. also do you call an open push from villain on the flop. curious as to peoples thoughts on this hand.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($347.62)
UTG+2 ($378.86)
MP1 ($308.39)
MP2 ($273.80)
MP3 ($805.69)
Hero ($686.30)
Button ($278)
sb ($647.85)
BB ($924.30)
villain($700.91)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls $6, 3 folds, MP2 calls $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $24, 2 folds, BB calls $18, UTG raises to $120, MP2 folds, Hero calls $96, BB folds.

Flop: ($273) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

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put it all in the middle unless an ace comes on the turn

eot

ArturiusX · #3 08-16-2006, 12:47 AM

Push after he bets.

boondoggle · #4 08-16-2006, 02:53 AM

you raised 4x BB, he repopped you 4x your 4x...easy fold. Remember he limped UTG and now is not just calling your 4x bet but repopping you 4x what you bet. 20/13 players do not do this with QQ. 9 out 10 times you are up against AA.

cheers
Boon

Kirkrrr · #5 08-16-2006, 05:30 AM

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you raised 4x BB, he repopped you 4x your 4x...easy fold. Remember he limped UTG and now is not just calling your 4x bet but repopping you 4x what you bet. 20/13 players do not do this with QQ. 9 out 10 times you are up against AA.

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LMAO.. wow, that is so horrible. Push flop. With a single buy-in stack, this is never a tough decision w/out an Ace on the flop. I'd also raise more pf after 2 limpers, but I'm sure you know that already.

Kirk

cts · #6 08-16-2006, 05:32 AM

lol retarded advice boondoggle.

Once you've gotten to the flop this way, obviously you go all-in. Raise more preflop.

fossil · #7 08-16-2006, 11:25 AM

Not easy to lay down KK but a 20/13 doesn't often enter UTG and seldom limps anywhere. This smells like AA.

thedustbustr · #8 08-16-2006, 01:32 PM

i'm not so eager to get it in. i'll call his flop bet, or bet if checked to. i probably fold the turn if he shoves.