200NL: I hate myself (Hand against ASPoker8)

[TimberBee]

So, villain is a 2+2'er , a good regular as far as I know. We have no history, and I don't think he knows who I am...

Flame me plz, I feel I need some punishment...

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $203.20
CO: $440.40
Button: $112.50
Hero: $392
BB: $426

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $7</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $23</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($48, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $38</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($124, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $84</font>, Hero calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($292, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO is all-in $295.4</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $295.4 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $292

[Imrahil]

I probably raise to $30 PF since you're deep. I think as played river is a fold. Not sure about the best turn play.

[keikiwai]

I think it's close but a fold [edit: call? (see pokerstove)]....

I think you get shown AK rarely, and the rest of the time AA, KK, QQ, JJ, and TT... you're only ahead of QQ and AK and you tie w KK

worst case scenario you are 34%, throw in a few AK and you are even better, so according to his hand range, it's a call... even w/o the AK calling is about neutral EV....

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

19 games 0.005 secs 3,800 games/sec

Board: 7d 5s Tc 2c Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.211% 31.58% 02.63% 6 0.50 { KdKh }
Hand 1: 65.789% 63.16% 02.63% 12 0.50 { TT+ }

of course throw in 77 and 55 and you may ahve to fold, and you're deep, so he prob. calls with does

either way it's close

[Paul Thomson]

fine. I probably prefer bet fold the turn though.

[Imrahil]

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I think it's close but a fold....

I think you get shown AK rarely, and the rest of the time AA, KK, QQ, JJ, and TT... you're only ahead of QQ and AK and you tie w KK

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AS never has AK here IMHO.

[Paul Thomson]

[ QUOTE ]
I think it's close but a fold....

I think you get shown AK rarely, and the rest of the time AA, KK, QQ, JJ, and TT... you're only ahead of QQ and AK and you tie w KK

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If he has AK here (which is think is rarer than a poker player getting pussy--few people float in reraised pots.), than Hero should be calling according to your range. Hero needs to be ahead 33% of the time to call.

Ahaead:
QQ - 6 ways

Behind:
AA - 6 ways
TT-JJ - 6 ways

[ASC-what]

looks like a fold

[Unknown Soldier]

he could easily have 77/55

[skier_5]

he doesn't have QQ ever. You're folding kings and you want him to be value betting queens??????

[cbloom]

Even 89 is possible here. People like to chase when you're deep and generally don't float and go nuts.