Help me to understand PNLH (p199)

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I seriously don't understand the last half of this book, so the study group will be very helpful to me.

But while we're waiting, direct your attention to p199. Is that an example of "outplaying" your opponent? A lot of the advice I've been given would point at playing the hand in a vastly different way. The hand starts like this:


online 6max game
100BB stacks

Hero is UTG w/ KQo

<font color="#cc0000">Hero limps </font>

[Fiksdal]

if you have provided all the information related to the example hand, then I strongly disagree with the books reccomended play in this case.

[Nogatsira]

How does this continue?
Limping with KQo UTG is asking to get owned imho

[Fiksdal]

[Triggerle]

The hand in question is an example for post-flop play in a very small pot. There is no reason nor a recommendation given for pre-flop.

Examples are there to make a point, not to emulate them. I've read (in other books) example hands where some stranger walking by randomly throws $1 million into a $1 pot.

[ama0330]

I dont have the book but I would say that the idea is to get you thinking about post flop play and table dynamics. Don't get too hung up on the fact that the preflop play is incorrect.

[Fiksdal]

the circumstances (table dynamics etc) have to be pretty extreme for this to be a good play. (like one of them will fold to a raise, but limp behind a lot and then shove any flop with ATC, in this case limp would clearly be optimal.)

there is no table info in OP

[Jzo19]

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I seriously don't understand the last half of this book, so the study group will be very helpful to me.

But while we're waiting, direct your attention to p199. Is that an example of "outplaying" your opponent? A lot of the advice I've been given would point at playing the hand in a vastly different way. The hand starts like this:


online 6max game
100BB stacks

Hero is UTG w/ KQo

<font color="#cc0000">Hero limps </font>

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it's just an example and shouldnt be carved in stone

[kurto]

I think its odd that people can't accept that limping can be good in NLTH. If your table is passive and you are comfortable postflop then limping all sorts of hands from all sorts of positions can be good play.

People get a little stuck on there's one right way to play. There are plenty of players who just love to see as many flops as cheaply as possible and play great post flop poker. To say that every player that limps KQ utg is making a mistake is awfully short sided.

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Triggerle: SPR is a way to link preflop action and postflop action. That example is about creating a SPR by taking one preflop action (limping) instead of another (raising). It isn't just a "post flop example" like you think it is; like the book says "Preflop and postflop play are never independent" (p168). Knock down your mental wall!

Kurto: Ever since I started playing 6max all I've heard was "Never open limp; raise or fold." Now this book presents a different view, one that I've literally never heard advocated by anyone playing at any stakes. I didn't understand the last half of the book very well on the first read through, but I am trying to, so I am looking for help.

Would you open limp KQo there at a table full of unknowns?