Blinds war - KQo SB

JJack · #1 10-18-2007, 10:19 AM

$0.50/$1.00

BB ($15.00) 16.38/7.77/2.59 - 1.9k hands - pretty solid TAG, steal (aatempt tpo steal 30%) and defend blinds (50% fold BB to steal)
SB ($52.00) (Hero)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, Hero raises, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls,

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( 3BB )
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero raises, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls,

Flop is quite ragged so I decide to semi bluff with good hand and raise.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( 6BB )
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls,

Here I assume that its blind war and villain could re-raise PF with bigger pocets 66+ or even bigger ace like A9s+ so I assume that can count my overcards like 5 outs (to many?) and make marginal call getting 7:1.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( 8BB )
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls,

Ok i hit my Queen so now what?
I thought about raise/fold cus he would call often with any better made hand like medium pocet but I just called.

Final Pot: 9.35BB

Do u see any leaks?

Sushiglutton · #2 10-18-2007, 10:49 AM

I don't like the flop CR so much. Unless he was bluffing pf (and then u prefer him continue bluffing) he won't fold anything that beats u.

Turn is marginal, I think we can fold.

River I assume we are ahead and CR sounds good.

Oink · #3 10-18-2007, 10:53 AM

Against a foldy kind of guy I cap preflop

Flop is terrible IMO

What Ax is in his PF 3-bet range and how many of those do you think he is folding on this flop?

Turn is prolly a fold. You are up against a pretty narrow range of better hands and have 6 outs far from always

I think I bet/fold river to get value from lower pp's.

You misplayed all 4 streets IMO

just2fast · #4 10-18-2007, 11:19 AM

*grunch*
I like the flop...I might cap against SB.

I lead on Flop.. I call raise. Don't like the C/R. Is C/R'ing overpair here standard.

Turn: As played C/C or C/F.

River B/C.

Would B/C each street be wrong in this hand?

JJack · #5 10-18-2007, 11:31 AM

thx for pain truth [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

im just starting learn how to play blinds war.

After thinking i see that flop raise sucks.
Turn i was thinking about call or fold but giving the acction fold is probably much better

scpi10 · #6 10-18-2007, 11:52 AM

grunch
I wouldn't c/r the flop. I would have folded the turn with just K high.
As played I'd raise the river and I would die a little inside when he 3 bets

Oink · #7 10-18-2007, 12:08 PM

To be honest I only hate the flop and to a little less extend the river.

Preflop is ok. Capping is only something you should do if his 3-betting range is fairly wide or if it improves your implied folding equity.

I dont hate the turn either. But it depends on how often you think he 3-bets the flop with a good A and how many lower pp's is in his range. Its close but if his range is wide enough and if you play the river well its prolly ok.

River is a must donk IMO. This guys is checking behind lower pairs a lot but calls a bet with them. So when he bets your eq is not near good enough to raise. Check/raise/call this river is as bad as raising 72o UTG

scpi10 · #8 10-18-2007, 12:13 PM

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BB ($15.00) 16.38/7.77/2.59 - 1.9k hands - pretty solid TAG,

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
4 folds, Hero raises, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls,

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are these the right stats. This says BB but the LRR was from UTG+1

JJack · #9 10-18-2007, 12:39 PM

villain is BB, i dont know why my HH convertor sucks, sorry for this.

btw what is good line here then?
c/c flop
c/f turn UI ,

and when we hit at turn Q or K
c/r turn and call down after 3bet?

bozlax · #10 10-18-2007, 12:53 PM

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BB ($15.00) 16.38/7.77/2.59 - 1.9k hands - pretty solid TAG, steal (aatempt tpo steal 30%) and defend blinds (50% fold BB to steal)

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Is this fishmax? Are these 1.9k hands of fishmax? If so, he's a nit and you picked a good spot to try to steal (you should attempt to steal from this guy with 100% of your hands), but when he treys pf you're in a lot of trouble.

(I assume that the hand identified as UTG+2 is actually the big blind?)

Depending on refining the read, I think you can safely c/f the flop. c/r'ing as a semi-bluff is spew, and when he treys again you're even more screwed than before, if that's possible.

Fold the turn.

Crying call the river, but you lose.

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Do you see any leaks?

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This hand, and any like it. (Edit 2: <- this is a little harsh. My point is that you have a strong read on this guy, even if it's datamined or whatever, and you seem to have completely disregarded it in playing the hand.

Edit: b/f'ing this river is ridiculous, if for no other reason than you should never have SEEN this river. You pulled ahead of nothing except AK/AJ (which he would probably fold to a bet), held by a player this nitty, and AK/AJ have to be strongly discounted after the flop action; he folds half his BB hands to any steal, if anything he's going to be even tighter against a steal from the SB.