60 overshove TT?

runhot · #1 09-03-2007, 01:19 PM

button has been being abusive w/ stack. also looks like an isolation move. i dunno...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB (t1815)
UTG (t915)
MP (t1940)
CO (t2140)
Button (t5010)
Hero (t1680)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t400, 2 folds, Button raises to t800, Hero ???,

Little John · #2 09-03-2007, 01:50 PM

i push here. ug is so short, he could have about anything. TT should be ahead of the button's range given your description.

memento_mori · #3 09-03-2007, 04:25 PM

I really think a shove is bad here. First of all we have a minraise utg, which could mean a lot of things.
It could be a monster, or simply a bad attempt at stealing. But until otherwise noted, I have to give a utg minraiser some respect. The real problem arises when the button minraises.
He is 99% sure that utg will call, and therefore potcommit him. His hand just screams a lot of strength, and without a read i would fold TT here without a second though (and JJ too).

EDIT:

Misread utgs stacksize, def. would not fold JJ here.

runhot · #4 09-03-2007, 05:01 PM

can these situations always acurately be analized by sngwiz? i'm putting utg at 24% , never folding, and button at 10% never folding, and its still a push..

JLaw · #5 09-04-2007, 12:48 AM

What do we know about UTG? UTG could easily justify shoving here, yet UTG minraises. Either UTG is clueless or UTG is looking for action.

In the former case I think you can make an argument for pushing, in the latter case, dump TT.

Jeff

FF_Woodycooks · #6 09-04-2007, 02:03 AM

Easy fold imo. Remember the gap concept and that you have no FE.

RPatterson67 · #7 09-04-2007, 02:05 AM

UTG is not min-raising 24% of hands. That may be a large part of why sngwiz is telling you to shove.

Schmitty 87 · #8 09-04-2007, 02:44 AM

Ya any info on UTG would be crucial, but with none and given info on the button I'm never folding here. I think you crush the button's range and you only have to beat him to break almost even.

Shillx · #9 09-04-2007, 02:47 AM

Push

RPatterson67 · #10 09-04-2007, 03:21 AM

The button knows utg is all-in. UTG min-raised 5 bb's. TT is g00t enough to gamble?