Suited Connecter -- Theory on how to play them

[Capone]

Now, I a lot of you have seen my last posts about the pocket pair discussion, and I was suprised to the great discussion that took place. In fact, I recieved a few private messages requesting I create the same type of thread for suited connecters. I was in fact going to anyways in a couple days but I will do so now, since everyone is interested.

Now here are a few questions to get the discussion boiling:

1)In early position do we come in for a raise if no one has yet to enter a pot with a suited connecter?

2)In Middle position what do we do with a suited connecter when there is 1 limper behind us? 2 Limpers?

3)In middle position what do we do if there is a raiser who opened from early position or utg?

4) From late position/button what do we do if people have limped?

5)From late position/button what do we do if there has been a single raise?

6)Any other thoughts?


OF course the answers are situational but i mean theoretically whats your view?

[relativity_x]

The answer to all six questions is the same: it really depends on table dynamics.

If you're playing at a loose table, scs are not valuable OOP. If you're playing at a tight table, then they become more valuable in earlier positions.

[Capone]

lol I know I'm just saying in theory.

[relativity_x]

well specify the table conditions, then the questions are answered for you. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Capone]

lets assume its our first hand at the table.

[CobraGoat]

1. depends
2. depends
3. usually fold
4. depends
5. depends
6. that is all

specific examples please...

[corsakh]

All questions depend at least on:

a) your image - if you have raised 4/5 times in the last orbit, you should pass on;
b) table image - if there are many calling station behind you, you should pass on;
c) stack sizes - if there are many shorties at the table, you should pass on.

Now closer:

1) Unless players behind you are tight and you are destroying the game - pass on;

2) Raise. Unless limpers are short. I sometimes call with one or two gappers.

3) Call a TAG. Raise a LAG like 1 in 5.

4) See 2.

5) I raise like 1 in 3. Otherwise call.

[Capone]

Thanks everyone for contributing.

Why should we be less inclined to play suited connectors if there are calling stations behind us? Wouldn't we want calling stations to call so that that when we hit we get paid off?

[relativity_x]

Assumption: We're new to the table
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1)In early position do we come in for a raise if no one has yet to enter a pot with a suited connecter? <font color="red"> no, we have no reads. </font>

2)In Middle position what do we do with a suited connecter when there is 1 limper behind us? 2 Limpers?
<font color="red"> 1 limper is a fold. I might raise qks though depends on my mood. You can't have 2 limpers in MP at 6max, but I assume you mean CO. I'd be tempted to call with most 56s+</font>

3)In middle position what do we do if there is a raiser who opened from early position or utg?
<font color="red"> fold to unkown villain utg. You have to give him/her credit. </font>

4) From late position/button what do we do if people have limped?
<font color="red"> 2/3 limpers, I'll just call with 56s+ </font>

5)From late position/button what do we do if there has been a single raise?
<font color="red"> without a read fold </font>
6)Any other thoughts?

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[Capone]

cool so basically, without reads we can fold to a raise.

And the more callers the more inclined we should be to call.

What players do we want to play these types of hands against?