($6.5) QQ on monotone board.

vMario · #1 08-10-2007, 06:54 PM

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Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t80, 3 folds, MP3 calls t80, 1 fold, Button calls t80, 2 folds.

Flop: (t270) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero?

malfobi · #2 08-10-2007, 06:59 PM

check/ fold this here to any bet. Often you get people leading out with a pair or the draw, if you want you could c- bet it but that is a waste of a bet here...

Plus your in the early levels plenty of time to recover

Cixelsyd23 · #3 08-10-2007, 07:44 PM

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check/ fold this here to any bet. Often you get people leading out with a pair or the draw, if you want you could c- bet it but that is a waste of a bet here...

Plus your in the early levels plenty of time to recover

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thats a little soft for an overpair at a $6.50 even on a monotone flop... I'd lead out--you are a favorite against a lone ace of clubs and lots of players at this level will go all the way w/top pair even on a flop like this

if the later action indicates you're beat, then you consider folding, but c/f seems like an option for AK no club not for QQ imho

J-P · #4 08-10-2007, 07:54 PM

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check/ fold this here to any bet. Often you get people leading out with a pair or the draw, if you want you could c- bet it but that is a waste of a bet here...

Plus your in the early levels plenty of time to recover

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This is horrible thinking.

You have to lead this flop, giving the 2 players behind you a shot at a free turn card is bad.

darks · #5 08-10-2007, 08:07 PM

Indeed. You have to lead this flop! About pot-sized bet, not giving pot odds to call with anyone with flush draw.

malfobi · #6 08-10-2007, 08:13 PM

In a 6.50, they arent thinking of pot odds at this level, and it isnt horrible thinking to check/fold here especially it being such an early level, and just losing what you raised is a much better play than leading out you have two callers on this board leading out isnt really a good play. Hgher levels it might work, but here checking off and waiting for a better place to be in is alot better than getting smashed with this board.

chuckpalms04 · #7 08-10-2007, 08:17 PM

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check/ fold this here to any bet. Often you get people leading out with a pair or the draw, if you want you could c- bet it but that is a waste of a bet here...

Plus your in the early levels plenty of time to recover

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This is horrible thinking.

You have to lead this flop, giving the 2 players behind you a shot at a free turn card is bad.

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Cixelsyd23 · #8 08-10-2007, 08:17 PM

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In a 6.50, they arent thinking of pot odds at this level, and it isnt horrible thinking to check/fold here especially it being such an early level, and just losing what you raised is a much better play than leading out you have two callers on this board leading out isnt really a good play. Hgher levels it might work, but here checking off and waiting for a better place to be in is alot better than getting smashed with this board.

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its really not important if they are thinking of pot odds, if they call despite you not giving them the right odds to do so correctly, they are making a mistake...c/f here is just spewing equity imo

stevi3p · #9 08-10-2007, 08:18 PM

i don't like check-folding. bet. be prepared to get it all in on the flop. and if no Ace or club comes on the river shove turn. if they don't understand pot odds, all the more reason to bet.

vMario · #10 08-10-2007, 08:23 PM

I don't really want to move in with QQ on this flop. No way. I rather prefer to fold here and give them my 80 chips. I'll definitely have an edge later on.