2/4, I plan on folding a set and follow through - Page 4

dtan05 · #31 07-11-2007, 03:58 AM

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I hate the river fold. I think there's a good chance he's rebluffing or is just shoving two pair or w/e out of frustration.

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agreed. aren't tehre more two pair combos than str combos?

Josh. · #32 07-11-2007, 04:05 AM

hated it at first but now i like it. this isn't 2 pair and it's not a bluff

Darkfolder · #33 07-11-2007, 05:03 AM

I STRONGLY disagree with some of the posts in this thread. Its you guys who are saying we shouldnt raise the river if we are folding to a shove. With a riverraise we get paid of by a lot of twopairhands and maybe even onepairhands since we have taken such a weird line. I believe too many people are saying this just because we have A SET but our hand isnt really that much stronger than AK in this spot as he wont valueshove twopairs very often. I think its a good fold.

catcher193 · #34 07-11-2007, 05:09 AM

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I STRONGLY disagree with some of the posts in this thread. Its you guys who are saying we shouldnt raise the river if we are folding to a shove. With a riverraise we get paid of by a lot of twopairhands and maybe even onepairhands since we have taken such a weird line. I believe too many people are saying this just because we have A SET but our hand isnt really that much stronger than AK in this spot as he wont valueshove twopairs very often. I think its a good fold.

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agree, also I'd raise closer to 160 on the river so folding is more comfortable, but yes I think this fold is standard.

aislephive · #35 07-11-2007, 05:19 AM

I'd raise the turn always here, maybe if he potted the turn I might just call, but given his turn bet sizing I'd say a straight or higher set is unlikely, but I guess so is two pair. Shrug ..

As played your raise/fold looks ok, but I call here a lot anyways given the odds we're getting and it's impossible for villain to put us on a hand as strong as a set. That might not be relevant here but it definitely is against some players who wouldn't be afraid to stick it in with air on the river. I make a lot of crying calls in general so take it fwiw, but I think both calling and folding are both fine.

wtf5 · #36 07-11-2007, 05:24 AM

People saying u shouldnt re-raise river if ur folding to a 3bet shove...thats really bad advise

Kimpan · #37 07-12-2007, 01:11 AM

Why don't we cbet this? its a drway board and we hold a set.

tripledrawrocks · #38 07-12-2007, 01:24 AM

i think you gotta call this after you underrep your hand that much

T-God · #39 07-12-2007, 01:31 AM

Just put him on AA and stop torturing yourself

Barrin6 · #40 07-12-2007, 01:41 AM

Flop check is just fine. Lots of combo draws that you AREN't ahead of will call flop.

Turn, I don't see how this is not a turn raise. He bets $25 into $42 and you want to get value into this hand so do it now.

What I don't get is if you guys reraise turn, do you guys bet/fold river? It seems kind of weak if we do.