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Old 06-19-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default 400nl - TT in awkward spot

Villian is 15/9/1 over 50 hands. havent seen him do much yet. the original raiser was 19/16/3 fwiw.

is this preflop 3bet standard or spew? also, how do you respond to the flop shove?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $654.90
Hero (BB): $422.50
UTG: $413.60
CO: $718.00
BTN: $398.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14.00</font>, BTN calls $14.00, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $62.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $48.00

Flop: ($140) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $105.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $336.00</font>, Hero?
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: 400nl - TT in awkward spot

His range given that push is 88-AA due to his 1 aggression factor. Looks like he slowplayed it. I'd fold.
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: 400nl - TT in awkward spot

I don't see how you can call this.
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: 400nl - TT in awkward spot

i would check this flop a lot fwiw.

its hard to say if hes really that tight bc u only have 50 hand on him. a lot of times when I see [censored] like this its 55-TT that is frustrated w/ squeezing and is just waiting for a low flop that they plan on never folding. If he was actually this tight over a significant sample I think i t would be a pretty trivial fold.

but given the lack of history and the way you got there I think you have to suck it up and call here.
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: 400nl - TT in awkward spot

Yah fold now. And preflop I think it's ok to do either.

Also you can't really tell much from his AF after only 50 hands. It's more because the only hand you beat now is 99 or bluff.

EDIT: He might do this w/ 77 but w/o a read I just play conservatively and pay attention to future hands.

Also Snipes are you cc or c/r here?
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: 400nl - TT in awkward spot

standard reraise preflop IMO to isolate original raiser while picking up dead $ in pot from button flatcaller (who has ridic wide range IMO). Neway, this is player dependent. Vs a 15/9/1, this is like eziest fold ever IMO. 15/9/1 here will have QQ-AA 99.9% if not 100% of the time. So he's very TAG/nitty and passive. Therefore, this is eziest fold ever since he's probably not flatcalling with 99 preflop here, and if he does, he'll smoothcall this flop because his AF shows he won't shove a marginal hand like 99 postflop in spots like this. Fold 100% of the time
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:13 PM
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Default Re: 400nl - TT in awkward spot

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i would check this flop a lot fwiw.

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what is your plan the times you check?
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: 400nl - TT in awkward spot

You played it fine......easy fold to river push....yr beat 95% of teh time here.
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: 400nl - TT in awkward spot

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Yah fold now. And preflop I think it's ok to do either.

Also you can't really tell much from his AF after only 50 hands. It's more because the only hand you beat now is 99 or bluff.

EDIT: He might do this w/ 77 but w/o a read I just play conservatively and pay attention to future hands.

Also Snipes are you cc or c/r here?

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c/c unless i thought he was retardo spewy enough to bet/call 66. but if he is that type id rather bet/call anyways.

here, if I actually had a large sample on the villain and his tendencies I would prob either not 3bet or when I did b/f or c/c when I checked. I think c/r is v meh.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 400nl - TT in awkward spot

check call the flop then don't put it any more money

if he checks behind bet like 80 on most turns and then don't put in any more money (aside from snapping off obvious river bluffs)

as played easy fold

(preflop is fine, but once he calls your hand no longer has any value. you still win a decent amount of the time, but those are not the times much/any money goes in)
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