1-table S&Gs - your feedback requested

[CheeseMoney]

I would like you to make your beep volume adjustable, since it is [censored] annoying to hear BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP when I have the volume cranked trying to hear FJ whisper into the mic on one of his ICONS videos.

[DCJ311]

Obviously the #1 issue with SNGs is rake, it's an absolute joke.

Just look at how much money gets spread around at a 25/50 NL table and how much rake gets collected on those 'investments'. A $1050+50 SNG collects over $450/hr which is far more than what they're making in a 25/50 game where there's much more money getting spread around. The 25/50 games will never die out because the rake is effectively so low.

The $555 SNGs and up are dying out and have been for quite some time, because the rake is unbeatable. A SMALL step in the right direction is making these things 10 handed, but still the rake is unbeatable at almost all of these.

The ante structure is fine- the Party structure was better, though. The smart money is in lowering the rake though, the high stakes 16 tablers are willing to pay enough in rake per year to make this change worth Stars' while. Right now I'm shortstacking and pay such little rake per dollar earned compared to when I played SNGs. SNGs are the most profitable way to extrapolate $/hr for a poker site. Do the math and make the changes, I addressed it in a thread linked within this thread.

[HajiShirazu]

I think you should lower the rake and keep your structure as it is.

[blowbubbles]

I don't think it's smart to mess with the structure. And I do think you should be seriously considering doing some (at least minor) reductions of the rake in the turbos. You have lost a lot of high stake sng traffic lately, and I guess this will spread gradually to the lower levels in the future if you don't adjust the rakes.

[ryanghall]

I will be extremely aggravated if you get rid of antes. I play a lot of high stakes sit and gos. Please devote less time to considering whether or not to change a structure which is fine and more time finding fish for high stakes SNGs.

Ryan

ryanghall on Stars.

[Gramps]

Thanks for the thread Bryan, as everyone is mentioning, the stalling is the big issue and has really gotten out of control latey in the 9 and 10 man SNGs. Just no jump from 100/200 to 200/400. Whether that means adding an extra level (150/300) or replacing one of the current 100/200 levels with 150/300 (either no ante for the one 100/200 level, or 100/200 with ante), it would go a long ways.

Stalling on Full Tilt (no BB increase > 33%) and Party (blind increase based on # hands instead of time) are pretty much nonexistent given their structures, which makes for a more pleasant SNG experience for just about everyone.

Edit: and that 150/300 level with w/25 ante for consistency, of course.

[Slim Pickens]

Get rid of the antes so I can finally feel fully comfortable telling people that "M" has no place in SNG analysis. That, and lower the rake, and hands/level instead of timed. Oh, and you should win stuff by watching.

[MATT238]

I agree with others, keep the antes for sure. Possibly add a level as has been mentioned. Also in complete agreement that the rake should be changed. High volume SNG players are paying a ridiculous amount of rake compared to high volume cash players. How many Full Tilt players will jump sites full-time if PS rake is reduced?

[bumpking]

Keep the antes. As mentioned before, it'll keep the regulars happy and the fish won't know the difference.

-BK

[Solanthos]

- Keep Antes
- Lower rake on $3 10-man SNG to $0.30 imo