50NL: AQo in multiway 3bet pot

Kairos · #1 08-13-2007, 07:41 AM

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $69.94
BB: $94.87
UTG: $77.27
MP: $53.68
CO: $51.29
Hero (BTN): $85.59

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG raises to $1.00, MP calls $1.00, CO folds, Hero raises to $5.00, SB calls $4.75, BB calls $4.50, UTG folds, MP calls $4.00

Flop: ($21) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $14.00, SB raises all-in to $64.94, 2 folds, Hero?

Villian is 30/15/2 over ~100 hands but this was only 20 hands in and I don't have a hud so consider him unknown.
I haven't 3bet much this session and I think this was the first time at this table.

This might be an easy decision but I mainly played on Full Tilt recently, where 3bets get much more respect and I have no idea about SB range here.
I need around 33% equity to call.

whyzze · #2 08-13-2007, 08:09 AM

a 30/15 usually only cold call a 3bet with some kind of pocket pair. In my opinion, you are well behind his range which I would say is AA, KK, AQh, QQ, 99, 55. Definately a fold here.

Triggerle · #3 08-13-2007, 08:48 AM

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a 30/15 usually only cold call a 3bet with some kind of pocket pair. In my opinion, you are well behind his range which I would say is AA, KK, AQh, QQ, 99, 55. Definately a fold here.

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You at least need to put air somewhere in his range as people tend to get pretty stupid in 3bet pots once in a while.

I'm a bit surprised about the equity, though. I would have guessed we are farther behind the particular proposed range.

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Board: 9h 5h Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.876% 44.21% 04.66% 13569 1431.00 { AhQs }
Hand 1: 51.124% 46.46% 04.66% 14259 1431.00 { QQ+, 99, 55, AcQh, AdQh, AsQh, J4o }

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Kairos · #4 08-13-2007, 08:48 AM

I figured that aswell and folded but I see this coldcalling a lot at party and I think they do it too often to only include pairs.
It's a call when you include KQ in his range.

whyzze · #5 08-13-2007, 08:51 AM

i really cant agree with him having air here...it makes no sense. If he was preflop raiser then I can believe it.

Kairos · #6 08-13-2007, 08:53 AM

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a 30/15 usually only cold call a 3bet with some kind of pocket pair. In my opinion, you are well behind his range which I would say is AA, KK, AQh, QQ, 99, 55. Definately a fold here.

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You at least need to put air somewhere in his range as people tend to get pretty stupid in 3bet pots once in a while.

I'm a bit surprised about the equity, though. I would have guessed we are farther behind the particular proposed range.

Code:<hr /><pre>
Board: 9h 5h Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.876% 44.21% 04.66% 13569 1431.00 { AhQs }
Hand 1: 51.124% 46.46% 04.66% 14259 1431.00 { QQ+, 99, 55, AcQh, AdQh, AsQh, J4o }

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I doubt he really bluffs here with 2 left behind him but he may semibluff something like Qhxh or 9hxh.
This should propably be a call if I wouldn't have the Ah or if he were MP

danicalifornia · #7 08-13-2007, 09:02 AM

Fold. He has you beat here like always

Cam5182 · #8 08-13-2007, 10:33 AM

I fold this. I think you are chopping at the very least. A rrai with two other players in addition to yourself behind suggests KK+