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Old 09-18-2007, 08:36 PM
Clarkmeister Clarkmeister is offline
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Default Re: Interested in starting a keeper basketball league

For example, after the initial draft, everyone will be right at or near the $66 million cap. Right now, at the start of year 5 (after free agency, rookie draft, etc), here is the salary breakdown (same $66 million cap):

137
118
112
105
100
95
91
86
75
70
70
66
64
63
57
56
Avg 85

Note that the payout structure is very flat, so there are like 4 teams in the league that can only make money by making the finals, and 2 that I think will only make money by winning the league. These teams really fatten the pot so that just making the playoffs for the lower-mid salary teams can turn a profit.

Anyways, just an illustrative example of the upward pressure on salaries and that it takes a while to get there. But when it does, it's pretty awesome how salary dumps etc really approximate real life.
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:56 PM
MEbenhoe MEbenhoe is offline
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137
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Avg 85


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Just to give you an idea of what two teams at very different points rosters can look like.

Clarkmeister's roster is the 112, he has been in the league since the beginning and is 4 time defending conference champ, with his first title last season:

Yao Ming C 16.5 M5
Amare Stoudemire C 14.9 C5
Jason Kidd G 13.6 C3
Richard Hamilton G 12.3 C1
Chris Kaman C 9.9 C1
Corey Maggette F 9.9 C1
Drew Gooden F 8.5 C1
Caron Butler F 7.3 C4
Kevin Durant F 4.1 R1
Tyrus Thomas F 2.7 R2
Andrea Bargnani F 2.3 R2
Sasha Pavlovic F 2.1 C2
Thabo Sefolasha G 1.6 R2
Dorell Wright G 1.3 C1
Andray Blatche F 1.2 C1
Leon Powe F 1.2 C1
Wilson Chandler F 1.0 R1
Paul Milsap F 0.9 R2
Delonte West G 0.8 R4

My team is the 57 team. This is my first year in the league and I inherited a team in pretty poor shape, so I went into massive rebuilding mode, looking for young and/or cheap talent especially ones on early year contracts.

Kirk Hinrich G 12.6 C1
Tayshaun Prince F 6.9 C1
Raja Bell G 5.0 C4
Mike Conley G 3.3 R1
Brent Barry G 3.3 C1
Tim Thomas F 3.0 C1
Jeff Green F 2.7 R1
Marco Belinelli G 2.5 R1
Etan Thomas C 2.2 C2
Ime Udoka G 2.1 C2
Charlie Bell G 2.1 C2
Fabricio Oberto F 2.1 C2
Juan Carlos Navarro G 2.0 C1
Craig Smith F 1.6 C2
Thaddeus Young F 1.6 R1
Hilton Armstrong C 1.4 R2
Kurt Thomas C 1.2 C1
Jermareo Davidson F 1.0 R1
Jarrett Jack G 0.9 R3
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Old 09-18-2007, 08:59 PM
sethypooh21 sethypooh21 is offline
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Default Re: Interested in starting a keeper basketball league

Lol @ Chris Kaman for 9.9? (Rip at 12.3 also seems high, though I guess with the importance of percentages, he doesn't kill you there for being a volume perimeter guy)

Just reread the rules, and I'm impossibly geeked, but quick question as to how the initial draft works?
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:02 PM
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Leon Powe F 1.2 C1

That's what I'm talking about.
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:27 PM
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Leon Powe F 1.2 C1

That's what I'm talking about.

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Oh, Yeah!
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:30 PM
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Lol @ Chris Kaman for 9.9? (Rip at 12.3 also seems high, though I guess with the importance of percentages, he doesn't kill you there for being a volume perimeter guy)

Just reread the rules, and I'm impossibly geeked, but quick question as to how the initial draft works?

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The initial draft had salary slots for each pick, and a separate rookie draft that reverse snaked the regular draft. The existing league commish and I are discussing our thoughts on how that worked (pretty well) and if there are better ways. I suspect we'll do something very similar if not identical.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:10 PM
Assani Fisher Assani Fisher is offline
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Default Re: Interested in starting a keeper basketball league

Can someone give me a cliff notes of the salary cap rules...I'm quite confused right now and I really don't feel like reading that huge rules post.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:33 PM
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Can someone give me a cliff notes of the salary cap rules...I'm quite confused right now and I really don't feel like reading that huge rules post.

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3 contract types.

M = Max = 25% of cap. Cap is set each year based on changes in the actual NBA cap.
C = Standard Contract. Goes up $1.0 first two years, 2.0 next two, 3.0 next two, etc. At C5 or higher (each year the number goes up 1), you may either up his salary the appropriate amount, or release to free agency and retain rights to bid on him without regard to the cap (Bird Rights)
R = Rookie. Stays same until after completion of R4 season, when you must either max him or release to free agency (you will retain bird rights).

Cap is $66.0. Each team will pay that amount regardless of their cap situation. On opening day you will also pay luxury tax equal to the amount you are over the cap. Same thing at the trade deadline. So effectively it's a double luxury tax. Team at 100 will pay $134.
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: Interested in starting a keeper basketball league

If there are any slots available I would like to be in.
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