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Old 08-24-2007, 07:05 PM
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Default NL 100 KK on turn.... bet / fold or C/C / C /F ?

Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50/$1.00BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

MP3 ($112.05)
CO ($128.80)
Button ($189.65) 165 Hands 27/15/1.8 / went to showdown: 30%
SB ($103.70)
BB ($20.00)
MP2 ($211.96) (Hero)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to 4.0</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, CO calls $4.00, Button calls $4.00, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>,

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $13.5 )
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11.00</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Button calls $11.00,

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( $35.5 )
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $18.00</font>,


How should i play KK on the turn ?
I think bet / fold is much better than check/ call.
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK on turn.... bet / fold or C/C / C /F ?

hm?
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:32 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK on turn.... bet / fold or C/C / C /F ?

This is a tough spot. Have you seen the villian float a lot? If so, I am calling here.
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:47 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK on turn.... bet / fold or C/C / C /F ?

when he bluffs does he bet small or large? Do you think he's capable of betting turn and river with a worse hand?
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK on turn.... bet / fold or C/C / C /F ?

bet/fold &gt; c/c&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;c/f.

check folding is much too weak. his stats make him look like a floater, the board is fairly wet, he could have called your bet with tonnes of junk. obviously he is ahead some of the time when he called with some Ax hands (AT, AJ), would he have 3bet AK, AQ preflop (what is your image).

the only trouble with bet/folding is that he folds alot of hands now that you want action from, however this is what always happens when an ace hits, there are still draws out, so you can still get value from FD's and SD's.

i think checkcalling is more risky but more profitable, the perfect scarecard has arrived for the villain to represent, so you may get some value out of your hand by letting him bluff you, the bad thing about this is it allows him to maybe catch his draw or just scare you off on the river if any more scarecards hit.

i would go with the bet/fold personally because his bluff may work too well and we end up folding the best hand on the river
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK on turn.... bet / fold or C/C / C /F ?

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bet/fold &gt; c/c&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;c/f.

check folding is much too weak. his stats make him look like a floater, the board is fairly wet, he could have called your bet with tonnes of junk. obviously he is ahead some of the time when he called with some Ax hands (AT, AJ), would he have 3bet AK, AQ preflop (what is your image).

the only trouble with bet/folding is that he folds alot of hands now that you want action from, however this is what always happens when an ace hits, there are still draws out, so you can still get value from FD's and SD's.

i think checkcalling is more risky but more profitable, the perfect scarecard has arrived for the villain to represent, so you may get some value out of your hand by letting him bluff you, the bad thing about this is it allows him to maybe catch his draw or just scare you off on the river if any more scarecards hit.

i would go with the bet/fold personally because his bluff may work too well and we end up folding the best hand on the river

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Without a good read on villains betting and bluffing pattern I agree b/f is best on this turn.
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Old 08-25-2007, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 KK on turn.... bet / fold or C/C / C /F ?

ok...
thank you for your answers [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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