playing the NFD v shorties in a MW pot

[donger]

Absolute Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $49.20
UTG+1: $201.30
MP1: $100
MP2: $96.70
CO: $398.30
Button: $68.70
Donger: $672.55
BB: $169

Pre-flop: (8 players) Donger is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to $2</font>, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Donger calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12, 6 players)
Donger checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets $10</font>, MP2 folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Donger raises to $64</font>?


Is this best? I thought I had some FE by playing it this way. An argument could also be made for leading out small and hoping to trap some of the field before pushing. Which is best? Or am I missing some other ways to play this?

[CrushinFelt]

no, call

[Ribbo]

Calling is best, your hand plays better with more opponents than less.
Raise if you honestly believe everyone will fold, call otherwise.

[iggymcfly]

Yeah, a call's best most of the time here. People hate folding straights and sets and there's a pretty decent chance button has a non-nut FD that you'd like to get paid by if you hit. I'd need a pretty specific read on MP1 to try to push him off of his hand here.

[oneouterson]

def. call

[donger]

So there's no value in just trying to get it heads up and maybe spike a pair? I've witnessed a lot of these shorter stacks stacking off with stuff like bottom pair + a 2pr draw.

Is this totally the wrong way to approach the game? Are you guys always trying to generate calls behind you by worse flushdraws and stuff? If it had been HU, do you CR push this hand?

[Ribbo]

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So there's no value in just trying to get it heads up and maybe spike a pair? I've witnessed a lot of these shorter stacks stacking off with stuff like bottom pair + a 2pr draw.

Is this totally the wrong way to approach the game? Are you guys always trying to generate calls behind you by worse flushdraws and stuff? If it had been HU, do you CR push this hand?

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If you raise here, you are guaranteeing you get all your chips in behind. If you call, you can actually find yourself in a situation where you are ahead multiway.

[donger]

So whats the plan when I call, then 1 player calls behind me, I whiff, and somebody pots the turn?

Also RE: getting in behind.. what about the times I pick up a $30 pot? That kind of helps finance the times I get in somewhat behind.

[Ribbo]

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So whats the plan when I call, then 1 player calls behind me, I whiff, and somebody pots the turn?

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You're asking for advice on playing a 20% draw on the turn facing a pot bet? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
I think you know the answer to that. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]







ARRRRRRRINNNNNNNNNN

[donger]

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So whats the plan when I call, then 1 player calls behind me, I whiff, and somebody pots the turn?

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You're asking for advice on playing a 20% draw on the turn facing a pot bet? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
I think you know the answer to that. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]







ARRRRRRRINNNNNNNNNN

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I mean, when the money is so short anyway, why let yourself get in that situation? Esp when you could have some fold equity and just pick it up right there?