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Old 12-24-2006, 07:53 PM
KSOT KSOT is offline
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Default Do you ever just call with nuts on the river when it\'s an obvious tie?

The rake may have been capped, but I wasn't aware of when that happened, so pretend it's a concern of yours here.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $1.00 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($79.25)
Hero ($170.35)
CO ($26.55)
Button ($154.45)
SB ($137.75)
BB ($72.75)
UTG ($99)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.8</font>, Button calls $3.80, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($11.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11.05</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $36</font>, Hero calls $24.95.

River: ($83.60) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $23</font>, Hero calls $23.

Final Pot: $129.60
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Old 12-24-2006, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Do you ever just call with nuts on the river when it\'s an obvious tie?

I've been shown a set here a little too often [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 12-24-2006, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: Do you ever just call with nuts on the river when it\'s an obvious

is this a joke?
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Old 12-24-2006, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: Do you ever just call with nuts on the river when it\'s an obvious

I've just called in a situation like this:

PLO 25 or 50

$10 pot, river gives me the straight

Villain bets $5
I mini-raise to $10
Villain mini-re-raises to $15
We both have lots left over
I just call

Pot has been split everytime this sort of thing has happened has happened, no exceptions.

More often though, when I mini-raise he pushes pot, which makes it a capped pot so we end up breaking about even for the hand.
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Old 12-24-2006, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: Do you ever just call with nuts on the river when it\'s an obvious

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which makes it a capped pot so we end up breaking about even for the hand.

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And if the rake wasn't capped you would have made about $.50 each. So by getting $50 extra in the pot you need to win about 1 time out of 100.


I consider this a math problem based on how much extra rake will be paid, how much more money you can get in the pot, and how likely you are to not chop.
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Old 12-24-2006, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: Do you ever just call with nuts on the river when it\'s an obvious

The only experience I've had that has anything interesting to add is a live hand where I had the nut straight on the river. With betting on all previous rounds, EP bet out for the pot, MP just called, and with a decent amount of money left over I reallised that EP had the nuts and MP had something like top or second set. I considered the possibility that MP also had the nuts and was hoping for the most retarded overcall ever from me, but the rake had already been capped. I had no idea what to do, so just raised the minimum, EP called, and MP suddenly twigged that he was behind and folded. I don't think I could ever make more money in that situation (EP did have the nuts also) unless I had only a pitiful amount of money left behind.
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Old 12-25-2006, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: Do you ever just call with nuts on the river when it\'s an obvious

calling when you are not last to act, hoping for an overcall, is standard in some spots.
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Old 12-26-2006, 09:08 PM
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Default Re: Do you ever just call with nuts on the river when it\'s an obvious

I usually just call hoping someone else calls. very few, even donks, will call without a nut straight after a raise... especially if it's broadway.
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