Pricing someone in

[MattHH]

I was doing my reading like a good little doobie, and just read a piece on pricing someone out that's on a draw. Then I got to thinking about if it is ever appropriate to price someone in .

For the sake of this discussion, we'll say it's a flush draw.

Maybe if you think someone is on a flush draw, but you are a nut flush draw as well and if they connect you are still going to be ahead.

Also, maybe it would be appropriate to price the villian in if the pot is small relative to the bet you can get them to call. It makes sense that you would want to price them out if the pot was large and not risk the whole pot for a half pot bet.

But if you are playing against a villian who chases when you're not giving him the appropriate pot odds, then wouldn't you want to put the max bet in that he would still call unless it would put your chipstack in a bad position if he drew out on you.)??

Thoughts?

[MJBuddy]

Pricing someone in has a null expected value; it is however, better than NOT betting.

But times to price someone in:

-You flopped a full house, completely disguised on a drawy board.

-You flopped a disguised straight on a dry board

-You have a monster that you're probably not folding on any street

ex. I raise in CO with AA. I get called and the flop comes KT4r. I'll prob go ahead and valuetown whatever I need for three streets to make sure I can get him to call the biggest bet possible on the river. If he has QJ I'm really not concerned; I have one of his outs, and I'm not folding because of all the KQ/KJ that will call getting amazing pot odds and then when they face a 3 to 1 river jam or some sort, they have to call.

[MattHH]

ok, definitely agree with pricing someone in in those situations.

I'll have to mull over the null ev concept... not sure if I get it.