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Old 10-15-2007, 01:16 PM
danzasmack danzasmack is offline
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Default Hand I observed

Game is a mediocre 30/60 game that just filled up (6 handed). Hero just sat down this is his 1st hand.

Hero is in BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villain opens OTB, hero defend.

Flop A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero c/c.

Turn 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero c/c.

River 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Hero checks with intention of folding.

Anyway what are your thoughts on this hand. TBH it blew my mind/kept me up at night.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:21 PM
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It blows my mind that it blows your mind.

pf: no other way to play it
flop: I often c/r the flop here but it has to be marginal. there may be more to gain by calling if we often get a free river. this is the only questionable street IMO.

turn: standard as played, we're hoping for a free card and I think when we don't get it our fold eq is pretty low. but we have plenty of outs to continue.

river: we lose
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:54 PM
noles321 noles321 is offline
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Default Re: Hand I observed

Since it was a button raise and his range could be huge. I think a flop c/r or donk on the flop might be good. B/F turn uninproved. I probably play it the way it was played but I think I am re-evaluating that stance after reading it.
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:11 PM
HOWMANY HOWMANY is offline
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Looks like standard flop c/r to fold out the best hand immediately/on the turn. When I'm running bad/playing bad and I c/c flop then I just c/c down after catching a pair on the turn like hero did.
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:39 PM
JustZak JustZak is offline
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I really hate how this hand played. I never c/c this flop with a gutshot and a backdoor flush draw. I'd just fold, but if I'm continuing I'd much rather c/r than c/c.
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:40 PM
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This is style-dependent IMO. Some people that CR this flop will never have an ace, they should not CR with 54 if that's the case. As played I would have called the river probably.

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Old 10-15-2007, 04:00 PM
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I would never ever just c/c this flop. My default is fold. If I have some read or recent table history that makes me believe continuing is worthwhile, I c/r, but I c/r a lot of flops.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:06 PM
Keepitsimple Keepitsimple is offline
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People dont bluffraise enough where I play so its best to play OOP fast.

Probably quite exploitable if I ever play vs a guy who raises turn/river with the right frequencies.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:16 PM
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I also don't think preflop should be standard. Against some of the players with tighter steal ranges I think its better to fold this preflop.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:22 PM
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I also don't think preflop should be standard. Against some of the players with tighter steal ranges I think its better to fold this preflop.

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I disagree with 100% of this content matters.
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