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12-16-2006, 09:03 PM
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big draw on turn, played by good 2p2er
pf fine, flop is obv fine, turn call is standard here yes? i've been thinking about this type of hand a lot... we have exactly 50% pot equity on the turn... is calling always going to be more profitable here against typical villain? who pushes?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) SB ($456.20) 2p2er ($200) UTG ($121.80) MP ($262.40) Hero ($256.40) Button ($152.15) Preflop: 2p2er is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">2p2er raises to $6</font>, SB calls $4. Flop: ($12) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">2p2er bets $10</font>, SB calls $10. Turn: ($32) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">2p2er bets $22</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $69</font>, 2p2er 
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#3
12-17-2006, 01:46 PM
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Re: big draw on turn, played by good 2p2er
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push [/ QUOTE ] Since you gave no reasoning I assume you didn't put any thought into this post, so I won't bother asking for your logic behind it. You have many outs, he's obviously calling a push, and you're obviously behind at this point. Why not wait to see if you hit? Your straight and flush are probably your only clean outs, while your trips MAY be good. I find it hard to believe you're not getting any value if you hit, which would be an argument towards a push.
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#4
12-17-2006, 01:50 PM
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Re: big draw on turn, played by good 2p2er
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[ QUOTE ] push [/ QUOTE ] Since you gave no reasoning I assume you didn't put any thought into this post, so I won't bother asking for your logic behind it. You have many outs, he's obviously calling a push, and you're obviously behind at this point. Why not wait to see if you hit? Your straight and flush are probably your only clean outs, while your trips MAY be good. I find it hard to believe you're not getting any value if you hit, which would be an argument towards a push. [/ QUOTE ] I think 2p2ers are all FOS in blind battles, which is why i push. So there.
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#5
12-17-2006, 01:50 PM
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Re: big draw on turn, played by good 2p2er
Fair enough.
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#7
12-16-2006, 09:17 PM
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Re: big draw on turn, played by good 2p2er
Pushing is not good imo. He's not gonna fold. And calling is always going to be profitable because you have immediate odds to do so agst his range, which has alot of sets in it, which you are 1:2 agst, and worse, which you are far better against.
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#10
12-16-2006, 10:08 PM
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Re: big draw on turn, played by good 2p2er
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Pushing is not good imo. He's not gonna fold. And calling is always going to be profitable because you have immediate odds to do so agst his range, which has alot of sets in it, which you are 1:2 agst, and worse, which you are far better against. [/ QUOTE ] QFT There's almost no draw worth pushing on the turn in a situation with little to no FE. Call, hit, stack.
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