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Old 11-07-2007, 11:51 PM
Paul McSwizzle Paul McSwizzle is offline
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Default Re: FT400 KK ugly board

I bet the flop, I don't understand why you wouldn't. Obviously the ace flopped, but does that mean we just give up on the hand?
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:17 AM
nuggetz87 nuggetz87 is offline
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Default Re: FT400 KK ugly board

standard, i fold river
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:34 AM
Floyd13 Floyd13 is offline
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Default Re: FT400 KK ugly board

raise less pre flop
check flop
c/c turn
insta fold river
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: FT400 KK ugly board

Why do so many want to check the flop? Even calling it standard? Why not bet it and represent the ace they can easily expect you to have?
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: FT400 KK ugly board

Because then he folds worse hands and never folds better Mase. It turns our hand into a bluff, and a [censored] one at that.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:18 AM
Kapten Kapten is offline
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Default Re: FT400 KK ugly board

This play is so weak. I donīt get the the flop check.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: FT400 KK ugly board

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Because then he folds worse hands and never folds better Mase. It turns our hand into a bluff, and a [censored] one at that.

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There's two reasons to bet.

One is to make better hands fold which is not the case here.

Another is to make worse hands to call and that applies here.

Flop check is ok only if villain folds all worse hands if we bet, but will bet them on later streets if we check.

Many of donks will call our CB with hands like T8,99,etc and don't forget the draws. Betting the flop and checking the turn behind is better.

Flop check is really bad against observant villains because it gives our hand away.
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:48 AM
jordiepop jordiepop is offline
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Default Re: FT400 KK ugly board

i play it the same and fold the river
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:51 AM
Dire Dire is offline
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Default Re: FT400 KK ugly board

You said villain seems donkish. If so then it'd be a fairly standard call since our hand is pretty much face up. Depends on how donkish. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 11-08-2007, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: FT400 KK ugly board

PF raise is too nig unless you were playing a loose maniac you knew would call. You have to bet this flop.
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