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20yrs+ 4 1.21%
15-20yrs 2 0.61%
10-15yrs 1 0.30%
8-10yrs 1 0.30%
5-8yrs 4 1.21%
4-5yrs 8 2.42%
3-4yrs 19 5.76%
2-3yrs 80 24.24%
1-2yrs 141 42.73%
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Old 08-31-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction?

Kaj,

This has repeatedly been pointed out to jono, Nielsio, et al. However, they always ignore posts like yours. It's a waste of time debating with them. They want to believe in a conspiracy, and no amount of evidence will convince them otherwise.
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Old 08-31-2007, 01:39 PM
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Old 08-31-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction?

I'm still trying to figure out just how the 2 towers were blown up.

From with this topic the following 3 links were given to prove the 2 towers were blown up.

1) Collapse Theory Fails Reality Check
This one uses, "simple physics to reveal the big lie", and in effect says that every single floor would have to be blown up for the towers to fall so fast.

2) 9/11 Conspiracy - Crash Course #3 of 4
I'm not 100% sure just how this one is trying to say it was done but I think they are saying the basement and the 34 floor were blown up, I could be wrong but that's what I think they mean.

3) Gordon Ross analyses the destruction of the World Trade Center
In this one expert Gordon Ross MEng. proves that the core was blown up every 3rd floor and the corners were blown up every 10-15 floors.

Now all 3 claim to have proof they are right, but they can't all be right only 1 of them can be right, so which one is it and what does that say about the proof on the other 2 ?
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction?

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To everyone using the jet fuel argument: I have already in previous posts given data and links for the following.

*how hot jet fuel burns
*how much weight structural steel can carry
*how weak the steel was at the those temperatures


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Please tell me you understand the concept that you do not have to completely melt steel before it begins to lose some of it's strength.

I can bend a steel rod into a pretzel using nothing but my own two hands and a campfire. And I can assure you I don't usually get the campfire up to 3000deg C.
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Old 08-31-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction?

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1...h&plindex=0 ... Aaron Russo (RIP) gave up a ton in his life to fight against the scum of the earth.
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction?

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http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1...h&plindex=0 ... Aaron Russo (RIP) gave up a ton in his life to fight against the scum of the earth.

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"Rockefeller also told Russo that his family's foundation had created and bankrolled the women's liberation movement in order to destroy the family and that population reduction was a fundamental aim of the global elite"

Yeah, this guy seems legit. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:57 AM
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He gave up his career in Hollywood pretty much and his bids for governor and turned down an option to join the Council on Foreign Relations. You think he did all that to just make this stuff up ? Do you not realize something is seriously [censored] up in your country ?
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:17 AM
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Default Re: 9/11 Conspiracies: Fact or Fiction?

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can bend a steel rod into a pretzel using nothing but my own two hands and a campfire. And I can assure you I don't usually get the campfire up to 3000deg C.

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I think all of the conspiracy theorists should give this a try before making any more posts.
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Old 09-02-2007, 12:12 PM
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He gave up his career in Hollywood pretty much and his bids for governor and turned down an option to join the Council on Foreign Relations.

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Many years ago, a friend of mine became convinced that there was a microchip implanted in his brain that allowed the government to read his thoughts through the TV. I thought he was joking, but he was dead serious. This guy was one of the smartest people I knew, and was very successful in his field. It also turned out that he was bi-polar.

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You think he did all that to just make this stuff up ?

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There's a small chance that he is telling the truth. However, there's a much bigger chance that he's either lying or that he's mentally ill.

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Do you not realize something is seriously [censored] up in your country ?

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Canada? Well, it does get awful cold up here.
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Old 09-02-2007, 12:13 PM
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can bend a steel rod into a pretzel using nothing but my own two hands and a campfire. And I can assure you I don't usually get the campfire up to 3000deg C.

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I think all of the conspiracy theorists should give this a try before making any more posts.

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This will never happen. It would involve them having to leave their parents' basements.
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