KK on Q-hi board: Take this to Value Town?

MandM_WSU · #1 09-09-2007, 02:27 PM

No major read on Villain. Table is fairly loose (75% to the flop when I sat down).

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 :#A500AF(Villain)/ raises, 2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, MP1 :#A500AF(Villain)/ calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: (15 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, Villain raises, CO calls, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, Villain caps, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (15.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Villain bets, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (19.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Villain bets, CO calls, Hero ??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I'm fairly certain Villain isn't raising in EP with a 5. I fear QQ, but if he has AQ, should I be check-raising this river?

Buzz-cp · #2 09-09-2007, 02:35 PM

If villain has AQ, you should be c/r the turn. But you are not sure he has AQ. He could have QQ or even AA, so you are calling down from the turn.

V4P · #3 09-09-2007, 02:49 PM

He didn't cap PF, and CO's presence makes me think he's holding a Q himself, so the chances of something like AA or QQ seem fairly slim

I like leading out on the turn and calling down to any further aggression

MandM_WSU · #4 09-09-2007, 02:55 PM

Yeah, he didn't cap PF, so I don't have him on AA. But AQ and QQ are reasonable calls here in EP. I thought about leading the turn and 3-betting if raised. I should have because I was the last one to show aggression on the flop. I must have feared a 5 out there.

Point Blank · #5 09-09-2007, 03:00 PM

9 handed and 75% to the flop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so ... the table is full of complete retards

hands to consider ...
AQ, KQ, QJ,
AA, 55, 44
JJ, A5

not sure if I would lead out the turn to get value from this other retard or check raise

RemyXO · #6 09-09-2007, 03:27 PM

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I like leading out on the turn and calling down to any further aggression

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mattnxtc · #7 09-09-2007, 03:28 PM

I b/c the turn and c/c the river

Buzz-cp · #8 09-09-2007, 04:05 PM

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He didn't cap PF, and CO's presence makes me think he's holding a Q himself, so the chances of something like AA or QQ seem fairly slim

I like leading out on the turn and calling down to any further aggression

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with the combos of QQ and discount on AA, would you still consider these together to be nearly equal to AQ after he caps flop?