2/4, deep, turn play with toppair on drawy board

[liverdracon]

PartyPoker $400 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(5 handed)</font> HandRecorderv0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
BB ($461.30) (27/20/4.40/13) (893h)
SB ($803.30) (26/6/1.50/21) (489h)
BU ($469.30) (30/14/7.00/30) (43h)
MP ($388) (37/34/4.00/50) (35h)
Hero ($659.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, SB calls $14, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($48) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $24</font>, BB folds, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $90</font>, SB calls $66.

Turn: ($208) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $24</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $120</font>, SB calls $96.

River: ($448) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20.

Final Pot: $488.

Not sure about the raising size on the turn. He doesn't get the implied odds for the call as I will c/b or fold to any [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or a card completing a straight draw. So what would your raising size on the considering the stacks

[destroBU]

I say fold river solely because he cranked it down to $20 instead of his standard $24.

I think the turn is fine, because I hate these spots and never know exactly how much to raise these "same bet" donks who bet tiny constantly. You want to put in a raise, but I feel like I don't want to play a massive pot with one pair against a guy who is so bad he's unreadable and could have you crushed. I wouldnt hate a larger raise, but $120 seems fine and I'm curious what others say.

[captainwacky]

holy raise.... this is succcch a blocking bet

[tuckercat]

the donk has like Q 6 offsuit. raise river. everything else seems just fine.

[liverdracon]

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the donk has like Q 6 offsuit. raise river. everything else seems just fine.

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Lol @ Q6o. Minraise river for 40 bucks?

Come on. At it's best he has QJ and was drawing on his gut shot, but I hardly believe that anything worse will call my river raise

[destroBU]

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but I hardly believe that anything worse will call my river raise

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I agree

And this guy doesnt know what a blocking bet is

[tuuufts]

I play it about the same

[liverdracon]

what is concerning me, ist that he get's pretty good potodds for any draw. Ik, he won't get any implied as i'm folding to every spade and every card completing a one card straight draw, but would be a bet of 200 and fold to an all-in on the turn not better?

[AAismyfriend]

Raise river all day, they always call with worse in this spot because they will convince themselves that they have induced a bluff by betting weird small ammounts every street.

[liverdracon]

What's your goal by raising the river? Getting him to fold a hand like KQ or AQ? Achieving this, the raise must be quite large.
Value raise? What worser hand will call me? I showed a lot of strength on flop and river and he's not a 40 wts callingstation. Do you really think he calls preflop with Qx lower that J? Don't think so. I wouldn't even exclude the possibility of 98s, who ist now trapping with trips to induce a third raise.