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Old 08-19-2007, 11:47 AM
ddubois ddubois is offline
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Default Fold KK preflop?

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No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$5/$10 Blinds
6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

gamble4you: $3,013.75
Hero: $2,391.00
Doctor_Fun: $1,112.00
babayaro: $1,000.00
sasson79: $1,260.00
Storkdelamork: $1,995.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
Doctor_Fun folds, babayaro folds, sasson79 calls $10.00, <font color="red">Storkdelamork raises to $45.00</font>, gamble4you calls $40.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $200.00</font>, <font color="red">sasson79 raises all-in to $1,260.00</font>, Storkdelamork folds, gamble4you folds

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SunTzuReps: $983.70
Colombo218: $514.40
gambler2k4: $495.50
smart_aces: $818.20
Hero: $708.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
gambler2k4 folds, smart_aces calls $4.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $20.00</font>, <font color="red">SunTzuReps raises to $76.00</font>, Colombo218 folds, <font color="red">smart_aces raises to $132.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $188.00</font>, SunTzuReps folds, <font color="red">smart_aces raises all-in to $818.20</font>
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: Fold KK preflop?

1. No.

2. Maybe (but still no).
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: Fold KK preflop?

1. never, it looks like you're squeezing and he might push a wide range

2. why are you minraising? I'm not folding here even though maybe you could
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Old 08-19-2007, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: Fold KK preflop?

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1. No.

2. Maybe (but still no).

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Old 08-19-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Fold KK preflop?

Villain in hand 2 was 37/9/1.5 and fishy
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Old 08-19-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Fold KK preflop?

Sorry about not giving reads. In #1 villain is like 33/3 over a hundred hands, and fishy. In #2, villain is as Columbo said, 40/10-ish, again over a small sample size, 100 hands or so.

Also, I knew there was another one I wanted to post. (It was on one of those funky named tables and wasn't showing with my filter preferences till I session-converted to 6-max.) Villain in this hand is a huge fish, like 65/18, and about half of his PFRs are min-raises.

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Hero: $1,224.40
IlostMyLeg: $588.00
Dodolly: $1,049.40
Cutie Pie12: $745.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Dodolly raises to $12.00</font>, <font color="red">Cutie Pie12 raises to $45.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $144.00</font>, IlostMyLeg folds, <font color="red">Dodolly raises to $243.00</font>, Cutie Pie12 folds

This one is a little bit different because I'm not facing an all-in, so I have the option of just calling and stacking off on boards with no A or Q, rather than just shoving in another 130bb now.
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Old 08-19-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: Fold KK preflop?

id shove in the 3rd one. even on an A high flop you won't necessarily want to fold because chances are he has AA or [censored], and when the A flops i'm starting to think he has some [censored]. id rather not have to second guess myself in an 80 bb pot and over 100 bb behind. worse hands can call if you shove
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Old 08-19-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: Fold KK preflop?

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1. No.

2. Maybe (but still no).

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Old 08-19-2007, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: Fold KK preflop?

1. No way in hell.

2. Maybe, but prolly not.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: Fold KK preflop?

Ok, I personally think folding pocket K, preflop is a big no no. You rarely will ever have some1 else holding AA. But if they do, well they do. But also, you are going to hit trips once in a while. So folding is a big big no no.
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