NL25 - AKo, tough (?) spot

[speedle]

Guy runs at 30/6/4.5

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($24.65)
CO ($26.95)
Button ($28.05)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($24.75)
UTG ($27.95)
Hero ($25)
MP1 ($80.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, BB calls $1, UTG folds.

Flop: ($2.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $5</font>, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($12.85) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $7</font>, Hero ?

What's my line here?

[AllTheCheese]

Call. Call again on non QJ river. Shove non QJ river if he checks.

EDIT: Actually, shoving turn here is fine with more than half the stacks committed already.

[ship_it_trebek]

I'm 3betting the flop here and don't mind stacking off here.

[RapidEvolution]

I hate spots like this in general, but on a Saturday night, when the maniacs abound, it's even tougher. I fold here because I don't want to get in the habit of taking TPTK to the felt without knowing that the villain will do this with junk.

[AllTheCheese]

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I fold here because I don't want to get in the habit of taking TPTK to the felt without knowing that the villain will do this with junk.

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Really? This guy's a 30/6/4.5 and he called a medium preflop raise out of the blinds. There are like three hands that beat us here. KT, TT, and 22 and this guy's check min-raise range on the flop includes hands as bad as T9. There's no way we can fold here.

[ship_it_trebek]

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I hate spots like this in general, but on a Saturday night, when the maniacs abound, it's even tougher. I fold here because I don't want to get in the habit of taking TPTK to the felt without knowing that the villain will do this with junk.

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Saturday night is exactly the reason I 3bet this flop.

[RapidEvolution]

I don't think that the default read on a villain is that they'll 3bet a preflop raiser (with a king on the board no less) AND lead the turn with 2nd pair/crap kicker. Is it possible? Of course, but unless I've seen villain get ridiculous with this kind of mess, I'm folding. If that's weak-tight, so be it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[ship_it_trebek]

I agree that with knowing he's leading the turn here it's easy to advise not being aggressive on the flop. Knowing the turn action is TPTK good here? Mose likely not. But that flop c/r is strangely small and more times than not this is Sat night donk saying "he's c-betting im gonna catch him" or value raising a KQ, KJ kind of hand. But Sat night donks can show up with hands here worse than TP.

[Chargers In 07]

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I hate spots like this in general, but on a Saturday night, when the maniacs abound, it's even tougher. I fold here because I don't want to get in the habit of taking TPTK to the felt without knowing that the villain will do this with junk.

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Saturday night is exactly the reason I 3bet this flop.

[/ QUOTE ]I'd rather call and push turn if we're not going to fold. We have position, might as well use it.

[oakrdrzfan]

I am done with the hand on the Turn. He is certainly repping better than TPTK here. Fold to cbet % and flop ckrs % would help the evaluation