NL$100, KK on button facing limp reraise

[solvine]

yeah, i agree i would fold this flop. You are gonna have to try and see another 2 streets after this for v.cheap if u want to continue with the hand, and could end up stacking off stupidly. His sample size is way to small to judge his play. If you call what is your plan for the turn??

[solvine]

is he going to put you on a FD in a rr pot?? i dont think so, so representing a flush isnt the greatest play in this hand imo

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I love how you played this if you folded.

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[BJJIII]

With the Ace on the flop does it discount the odds of him having AA?

[CalledDownLight]

ya dude you played it fine since he had JJ

[speedle]

What are the chances the other guy is holding KK in this specific spot?

[BJJIII]

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ya dude you played it fine since he had JJ

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if no one wants to give advice forget about it. why even have a forum to talk about it?

[CazicT]

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With the Ace on the flop does it discount the odds of him having AA?

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Well, it depends on the range of hands he could have. If he would NEVER limp/reraise with less than AA, then no, the odds of him have AA is still 100%.

Obviously this probably isn't the case and even if it was you can't know it, so yes it decreases the chances he has AA.

There are only 3 possible ways he could have AA now that one is spoken for on the flop instead of 6 ways he could have it if there weren't an ace on the flop.

Is this enough to allow us to continue? Well that depends on what his full range is which is a judgment call. Most people seem to say it isn't enough.

What do people limp/rereaise with? AA usually, KK maybe but less likely, QQ now you're stretching, etc. If you thought that he would limp reraise with QQ just as often as he would with AA then you can continue since there are 6 possible QQ combinations and only 3 AA. But if you think he limp/reraise less than half as often with QQ as with AA then you are back to not continuing.

Of course there are other coniderations too. Like, if he has AA he will likely bet again at some point this hand costing you more money, but if he has QQ, he can shut down and not pay you off OR he can keep bluffing. You won't know for sure so you will have to pay to find out.

So, as i've said before, if you have a good read on him, and think he won't two barrel bluff, then you can float this bet because if he bets again you can be pretty sure you're beat and if he doesn't you can be pretty sure your ahead, so you are essentially paying for information. It isn't worth it to do this unless you have a good read and are sure the information is reliable though. Or, you can just assume that since most people limp/reraise with a narrow range, usually AA or KK, and rarely anything else, that it is just too likely you are beat and it isn't worth to pay anymore to find out for sure and dump it. This is what i would probably do.

[BJJIII]

Guys thats how you reply to a post.

Take notice.

[MarcusT]

You go all in pf with KK because you don't want to see a scare card.