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Old 11-05-2007, 12:59 PM
Slim Pickens Slim Pickens is offline
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Default Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw

Here's the $EV plot for suzzer's call with JJ versus SB's pushing range. Like people have been saying, break-even is around 75% and if he's pushing 100%, the call is +1.38%, which is solid.

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Old 11-05-2007, 01:00 PM
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Default Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw

settings --->6max?
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:03 PM
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settings --->6max?

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yeah, i found the problem....for some reason my 6max structure had ridiculous payouts. im dumb. /end dumbness.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw

When I did this by hand I got a slight negative EV for 75%, did I do something wrong?
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:11 PM
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When I did this by hand I got a slight negative EV for 75%, did I do something wrong?

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i think everyone is getting +%0.2 at 75%
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw

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How can he possibly crush the bubble worse than this?

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Looking at the hand from SB's perspective and plotting SB's $EV against suzzer's calling in the BB...


100/200: +0.87% with 32o against 5% call


100/200/25: +1.25% with 32o against 5% call


200/400/50: +2.27% with 32o against 5% call

It's very profitable for SB to keep this table setup around as long as possible. Each successive hand becomes more +$EV the longer it continues. Stealing one BB from suzzer now is kind of meh, but waiting five minutes and doing it is much better. The opportunity will still be there because he still can't call with anything even when there's >2x as much in the pot preflop.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw

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When I did this by hand I got a slight negative EV for 75%, did I do something wrong?

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Since this is BvB, you should get the same result with SNGWhiz, SNGPT, and a hand calculation to within your numerical precision. I got +0.15% for a call against SB pushing 75%.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw

I would fold this. Also, even though he should be, SB probably is not on any 2.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw

I don't understand. Could you explain how this table set-up is profitable if he doesn't take advantage of it?
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: $235 6-man [censored] me with a chainsaw

i like slim pickens points, BUT

how are we so sure that villain is smart and capable enough to think what slim pickens is thinking

i am a good but not great sng players and generally in this spot i am shipping ATC because "lol bubble"
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