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Old 12-01-2007, 12:17 PM
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seirously? why? If we are betting then this lets him off really cheap.

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i think hes probably picking a # based on the line and pot size and villain that he think the guy will call. if you think he'll call a shove, then shove sir.

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This tilts me. Shove.

It isn't about how often he will call. It's about the EV of a bet.

10% of a $100 bet = 100% of a $10 bet.

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There is a direct correlation between how often he will call and the EV of the bet, thank you for laying out the basic math for me though. I should've said "If you think he'll OFTEN call a shove, then shove". Being that I didn't look terribly closely at the stacks on the river last time I visited this thread (my bad), I'd say it looks more like a shove when betting the river than any lesser bet.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:39 PM
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PLEASE SHOVE
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Old 12-01-2007, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?

fwiw, hands villain calls a shove with that he might not bet himself = naked Ax, and there's no reason for him to have that

Everything else in his range = let him bet in case he's being a retard and doesn't have trips or better
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:32 PM
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fwiw, hands villain calls a shove with that he might not bet himself = naked Ax, and there's no reason for him to have that

Everything else in his range = let him bet in case he's being a retard and doesn't have trips or better

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They often check behind small flushes and usually check behind 56. They also rarely fold these hands to a push.
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?

A 45/11/2 is never, never ever checking behind a flush.
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?

shove
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:01 PM
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:09 PM
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shove. he is only folding things he bluffed the turn with, so nothing really.

i don't really like checking because he might check behind a weirdly played AK or something, whilst he would always call a bet with it
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:12 PM
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wow. lol at all the check raisers
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:47 PM
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wow. lol at all the check raisers

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lol at anyone who lols at goofyballer especially after I gave pretty solid reasoning for my actions

more like lol at anyone who thinks he has AK here
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