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Old 07-22-2007, 12:42 PM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Default Very weird call down

Folded to my SB and I steal with Jc9s, BB calls.

Flop: AxAc4c, 4 sb

I bet, he calls.

Turn: Kc, 3bb

I check, he bets, I call.

River: Ax, 5bb

I check, he bets, I call.
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:55 PM
bobhalford bobhalford is offline
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Default Re: Very weird call down

I can dig it up until the river which I think is a check and fold. I don't think he bets the turn without a pair, but certainly it's possible. When he bets the river he has to be desperate, and I don't think he's that desperate here with a small pot and a turn play that didn't persuade hero to fold.

I understand the river call here since BB could have an 8 high club draw and bluff the river with it. Since we have the J of clubs, villain would have to have the Qc to have a better club draw. So if indeed he is semibluffing the turn and bluffing the river, chances are we have the best hand.

Without a read, it's hard to tell whether this villain is betting the turn and river on a draw or with a full house. he could have 8c6x or 53s, it's hard to tell. Tough hand, not really sure what to do on the river here. Certainly c/c the turn is right.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: Very weird call down

i like it
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Very weird call down

What limit? Any reads or information?
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Old 07-22-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Very weird call down

wtf raise the turn waiting for the river is terrible
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Old 07-22-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: Very weird call down

gehrig you're saying c/r turn?
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Old 07-22-2007, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Very weird call down

if u won this one u got very lucky.
u lost it just fold
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Old 07-22-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Very weird call down

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gehrig you're saying c/r turn?

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just bet/3bet hes checking turn too much if u check
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Old 07-22-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Very weird call down

I don't really like the rivercall. You will lose mostly in this spot. Why no bet on the turn? Why no cr on the turn?

@MartynasD: You seem to be really too result orientied and don't look at the play.
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Old 07-22-2007, 03:10 PM
Zach6668 Zach6668 is offline
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Default Re: Very weird call down

Why are we bet/3-betting the turn gehrig? You see we have Jack high only, right? We've also got the 2nd nut FD, obv, but is that really worth a bet/3-bet on the turn? Especially with no reads provided? Can I assume you just misread the hand?
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