NE is a superbowl lock.

[BillNye]

Great team + did the best in the FA market this year + decent draft + Randy Moss.

I'd take some pretty weak odds on undefeated.

[AAmucked]

Who knows if Randy is motivated at all. If he's not they are no lock whatsoever

[whipsaw]

If you throw out some odds on undefeated I'm pretty sure you'll get some action in this forum.

[hobbes9324]

Always amazes me that people think adding a wide reciever is going to make a huge difference.

If Moss has a HUGE day, he gets 10 touches. The guy he replaces probably would have gotten 5.

Be generous and say he's worth a field goal extra a game....just not that big a deal. And who knows if you're going to get "good Randy" or "bad Randy".

Another way to look at it - can you name a superbowl winner whose star player was a WR? Jerry Rice, maybe - OTOH, his QB is going straight to the Hall of Fame, too.....

MM MD

[NajdorfDefense]

Those 49er teams were absolutely LOADED:
Montana
Rice
Young
Craig
Tyler
Taylor
Jones
Clark
Watters
Floyd
ad infinitum.

[hobbes9324]

I agree - that's kind of the point, I guess.

If you take the 49er roster and subtract Rice but add a pretty good wide reciever, they're still looking pretty good.

If you took a team that looked like the Patriots last year - pretty good, but lacking in recievers, and add a Jerry Rice, they look a lot better - but I doubt they go undefeated. I doubt they go 13-3.

From the bye week on, beginning Nov 18th, NE plays at Buffalo, at NYG, at Balt. Home with Phil, Pitt, Mia and NYJ.
At least 5 of those games it'll be freezing and/or snowing.
Moss played in a dome and in Oakland. How much impact will he have under those conditions?

Oakland got a FOURTH ROUND PICK for him. Fourth stinking round.

Don't get me wrong - he's a great player. I'm a GB fan, and was really hoping that he would end up there. But the OP was arguing that Moss will guarentee a Super Bowl, and that NE is a good bet to go undefeated. I'm not buying.

MM MD

[Mojo56]

It amazes me that the Pats would want this guy. Didn't they learn anything from the Owens/Parcells debacle? At least you could argue that Owens played hard every down (when he was healthy). You can't say that about Moss, who takes plays off and does whatever he feels like. Odds of Moss helping are about equal to the odds Belichick has no hair by the end of the season.

[NajdorfDefense]

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Who knows if Randy is motivated at all. If he's not they are no lock whatsoever

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No team with Moss on it will ever win a title.

[rush66]

Definetly not a lock, but I do love Moss. When he is motivated he is one of the best in the game IMHO.

[SonnyJay]

While it doesn't make them a Super Bowl lock (and I'd be happy to negotiate a price for "undefeated"), I do like the move. A big reason is that Moss is given a huge incentive for this year. His contract is one year for $3 million (with "reasonable" incentives totaling another $2 million). After this year, he'll be 31 and in position for someone to offer him one last big signing bonus deal. If anything will motivate him out of his Oakland funk, this will.

Patriots get a one year rental and give Brady his first true #1 target. Moss gets a chance to revive his career and cash in. It may not work out, but I like the play.