$115 NLTRN 66 gets shoved on 1st hand

[DDBeast]

1st hand
I raise 3bb w/ 66.
Villain shoves.
hero...

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Fold. Most hands are a toss up here, but if he has a PP you are [censored].

Villains like this tend to suck pretty hard anyways, probably +EV to try to play out a real match against him.

[Indiana]

ddbeast, i used to instacall with this hand....but i've found that bad players like to push big hands early when I raise so i stopped. I fold.

[jay_shark]

Yes you should fold , but I would call if I had 88+ .

If I guess that my hands wins more than 53% of the time against villains range , then I'm calling fast .

[hockeyf]

He is obviously a donk, so "fold and wait for a better spot"

[Soupy]

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Yes you should fold , but I would call if I had 88+ .

If I guess that my hands wins more than 53% of the time against villains range , then I'm calling fast .

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why, unless you think that you two are equal in skill you should fold and just beat him in the long run, why take a coinflip when you should be the better player?

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Yes you should fold , but I would call if I had 88+ .

If I guess that my hands wins more than 53% of the time against villains range , then I'm calling fast .

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why, unless you think that you two are equal in skill you should fold and just beat him in the long run, why take a coinflip when you should be the better player?

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If you are ahead it could be more +EV for you to take a flip while you are slightly ahead and get a new match started where you could outplay them.

[Soupy]

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Yes you should fold , but I would call if I had 88+ .

If I guess that my hands wins more than 53% of the time against villains range , then I'm calling fast .

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why, unless you think that you two are equal in skill you should fold and just beat him in the long run, why take a coinflip when you should be the better player?

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If you are ahead it could be more +EV for you to take a flip while you are slightly ahead and get a new match started where you could outplay them.

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ok thankyou very much, i was only thinking in chip EV not $EV

[jay_shark]

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Yes you should fold , but I would call if I had 88+ .

If I guess that my hands wins more than 53% of the time against villains range , then I'm calling fast .

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why, unless you think that you two are equal in skill you should fold and just beat him in the long run, why take a coinflip when you should be the better player?

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If you are ahead it could be more +EV for you to take a flip while you are slightly ahead and get a new match started where you could outplay them.

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ok thankyou very much, i was only thinking in chip EV not $EV

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Soupy , actually you were thinking in terms of win % and not $/h which is what really matters .

Lets make the hypothetical assumption that your win rate is 60% and you average 15 minutes for each sng in the $100+$5 games . You profit 200*0.6-105=15/sng . This is equivalent to about $60/h .

If you call on the first hand as a 53% favorite , then you will profit 200*0.53-105=1/sng . Even if the hand took 1 minute , you will be averaging the same amount !!

The hand should take even less than a minute to complete which means you've improved your $/h while decreasing your win rate for this specific situation .

[Soupy]

thankyou as well jay, i'm just a microstakes player. i understand most concepts pretty well, but theres always something to learn, this is one of those times.